Parry and Stanford

[BBMmk2]

Thank you ever so much to everyone who has posted.

There is a lot to help me forward here.

Aren't we as bad lot, making people spend their money and mine!

[Pabmusic]

I've just finished reading (for the nth time) Love Lies Bleeding, by Edmund Crispin (Bruce Montgomery). It features nasty goings-on during a Shakepeare play jointly put on by a boys' and a girls' public school. The Headmaster of one is Dr. Stanford; the Headmistress of the other, Miss Parry.

[Lat-Literal]

Aren't we as bad lot, making people spend their money and mine!

[BBMmk2]

But, on a serious note, lat, that recording by Tenebrae, you should get to hear!

[LMcD]

On Radio 3 at 11.30 p.m. this Sunday:
Stanford: Cello Concerto in D Minor, Symphony No. 7

[BBMmk2]

On Radio 3 at 11.30 p.m. this Sunday:
Stanford: Cello Concerto in D Minor, Symphony No. 7

Thanks for the heads up! I have quite a bit of listening to do today!

[BBMmk2]

Thanks for the heads up! I have quite a bit of listening to do today!

Hmmm, couldn't find it this?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Hmmm, couldn't find it this?

"[T]his Sunday" means "this coming Sunday" - or "next Sunday", if you prefer - as opposed to "this Sunday just gone"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09w6xwy

[BBMmk2]

"[T]his Sunday" means "this coming Sunday" - or "next Sunday", if you prefer - as opposed to "this Sunday just gone"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09w6xwy

I should have read properly(note to self!)

[Stanfordian]

I would be interested to hear opinions on the respective merits of these composers, music of theirs which stands up today, and any potential for reassessment beside or against Elgar.

New CD of Parry songs to be released soon on Somm label.

Sir Hubert Parry: Twelve Sets of English Lyrics Volume II

Andrew West, James Gilchrist, Roderick Williams, Sarah Fox

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Parry's orchestration, though extremely competent, somehow lacks imagination. It's mostly strings sawing away, with colouration from the other sections when needed. I don't suggest it isn't good, but there are missed opportunities - something clearly indicated by comparing the composer's own orchestration of Jerusalem with Elgar's rethinking, shortly afterwards.

Parry/Parry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w03DWX-vO8

Parry/Elgar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5MaLVaN6tI

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Interesting point, Alpie - and it's certainly true also of Best Pair of Nylons. But whilst it's true of the choral accompaniments, I don't feel the same sense of "missed opportunities" in the two purely orchestral works of his that I know best: the Fifth Symphony and the Elegy for Brahms.

[Pabmusic]

Parry's orchestration, though extremely competent, somehow lacks imagination. It's mostly strings sawing away, with colouration from the other sections when needed. I don't suggest it isn't good, but there are missed opportunities - something clearly indicated by comparing the composer's own orchestration of Jerusalem with Elgar's rethinking, shortly afterwards.

Parry/Parry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w03DWX-vO8

Parry/Elgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5MaLVaN6tI

Spot on, Alpie. It's a bit like an organ sound - unvarying. Mark you, Stanford - though more varied - can be rather bland.

[Serial_Apologist]

Parry's orchestration, though extremely competent, somehow lacks imagination. It's mostly strings sawing away, with colouration from the other sections when needed. I don't suggest it isn't good, but there are missed opportunities - something clearly indicated by comparing the composer's own orchestration of Jerusalem with Elgar's rethinking, shortly afterwards.

Parry/Parry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w03DWX-vO8

Parry/Elgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5MaLVaN6tI

Could Brahms's example be the explanation? It does surprise me in Parry's case, given there are often strong Wagnerian traits in the harmony, particularly from "Die Meistersinger" in "Blest Nair of Pylons", often felt to define "Britishness" as an idiom.

[BBMmk2]

Spot on, Alpie. It's a bit like an organ sound - unvarying. Mark you, Stanford - though more varied - can be rather bland.

Pabs, you not saying that the sound of the organ is not vaired?