Elgar/Payne Symphony No 3 - is it to fade out of sight ?

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11669

    #91
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    I agree. Let's keep the real thing separate!
    A very fair point .

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    • Beef Oven!
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      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #92
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      A very fair point .
      So why do you make the same requests elsewhere?

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #93
        The "informal protocol" that's become a habit in these matters is that once the Thread has run its course (ie when a couple of weeks have passed with no further contributions to it) I merge it with the similar/identical-themed Thread. So, whilst Forumistas are discussing the "shelf-life" of the Elgar/Payne, I'll keep it under the original title to make it easier to find the Thread. When discussion has died down - like, when we've stopped discussing whether it should be merged with the Elgar Thread or not - I'll merge it with the Elgar Thread.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #94
          Besides, I'm waiting for my source in Boosey & Hawkes to let me have details of forthcoming performances, and numbers of performances in the twenty years that the work has been in the repertoire.

          Speaking of which - does anyone know why B&H published the work? Elgar is associated with Novello, Payne with (I think) Oxford - was B&H chosen as a "neutral compromise" between the "competing" companies?

          And why is the score so ryddu expensive???!!!
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Suffolkcoastal
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            • Nov 2010
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            #95
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Besides, I'm waiting for my source in Boosey & Hawkes to let me have details of forthcoming performances, and numbers of performances in the twenty years that the work has been in the repertoire.

            Speaking of which - does anyone know why B&H published the work? Elgar is associated with Novello, Payne with (I think) Oxford - was B&H chosen as a "neutral compromise" between the "competing" companies?

            And why is the score so ryddu expensive???!!!
            Some Elgar is published by B&H, the P&C Marches, Sea Pictures, Cockaigne Overture. B&H scores are always considerably over-priced & not always of the best quality either. However bargains are to be found, I purchased the Elgar/Payne 3rd for only around £10

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11669

              #96
              I can see why it might be sensible to have threads in respect of a composer stored together but see no reason why all Elgar threads should be merged into one - it makes sense if for example there are several threads about say Mahler 3 but not the whole work of a composer.

              This thread is already longer than the Elgar thread . Moreover, why would one want to trawl through say a long discussion on Mahler 3 if you were looking for a discussion of Das Lied von Der Erde?

              Can you please leave this thread separate wherever it is stored.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #97
                Fair enough - I might tuck it into its own specially-made separate folder on the Composer Forum (similar to those for the individual Bruckner & Mahler Symphonies) when discussion falters. (I'll also delete these posts discussing where the Thread should go for future audiences.)

                But the Editor's Decision will be final.



                Just as soon as he makes his mind up.
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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #98
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  The "informal protocol" that's become a habit in these matters is that once the Thread has run its course (ie when a couple of weeks have passed with no further contributions to it) I merge it with the similar/identical-themed Thread. So, whilst Forumistas are discussing the "shelf-life" of the Elgar/Payne, I'll keep it under the original title to make it easier to find the Thread. When discussion has died down - like, when we've stopped discussing whether it should be merged with the Elgar Thread or not - I'll merge it with the Elgar Thread.


                  Decisiveness. That's what we need in an editor. I'll respect your decision.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                    Can you please leave this thread separate wherever it is stored.
                    I see no problem with that, particularly as this work is by two composers.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      I see no problem with that, particularly as this work is by two composers.
                      - a clinching argument, methinks!
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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        - a winning argument, methinks!
                        Thanks

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          - a clinching argument, methinks!
                          Nah, you bottled it. Your decision smells of elderberries and is born of a hamster

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Thanks


                            A little editing of the Thread title might need to be involved as a result.
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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Nah, you bottled it. Your decision smells of elderberries.


                              Behave!
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                              • LMcD
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                                • Sep 2017
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                                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                                And the first recording:

                                BBC SO/Anrew Davis
                                My apologies to fellow Forumistas and to Wikipedia, which mentions the Davis recording first in a preceding paragraph then lists the 4 subsequent recordings).

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