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  • jean
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7100

    #16
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    Weeeeelllll ... it wasn't exactly rubbish under Pesek, either...
    No, but that was a while ago...a lot happened between Pesek and Petrenko, some of which was Gerard Schwarz...

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by jean View Post
      No, but that was a while ago...a lot happened between Pesek and Petrenko, some of which was Gerard Schwarz...
      Ah! I see.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6455

        #18
        I understand the Oxford Philharmonic are a pretty formidable band with a roster of conductors to match!

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        • Maclintick
          Full Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1071

          #19
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Well, there are so many fine ensembles now....
          Heidelberger Sinfoniker for their Haydn and Mendelssohn with Fey, Musikkollegium Winterthur with their Mendelssohn series....I seem to listen to the the ​Vienna Symphony more often than the Philharmoniker these days....not to mention many wonderful Radio Orchestras.
          There's the Antwerp SO and the Royal Flemish PO in Herreweghe's Schubert cycle....

          I do feel you often get a fresher livelier interpretation from these more "provincial" partnerships... those French bands in Lille and Bordeaux with their Dutilleux, Venzago's Berne SO and Basle SO....
          No to mention BIS in Scandinavia...!

          There's a wonderful sense of discovery in all these recordings, of the orchestras as much as the music and interpretations....
          Agreed. A CD rarely off my turntable, as it were, is that of the Ostrobothnian Chamber Orchestra's recordings of CPE Bach's "Hamburg" Symphonies, under Sakari Oramo -- beautifully-turned accounts from a virtually-unknown (at least in the UK) ensemble. Many offerings from the Nordic countries who have invested heavily in music education are equally distinguished.

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #20
            I rather like that Mahler 5 that has recently been released by the orchestra that premiered Tge work, the Gurzenich Orchester Koln.
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • pastoralguy
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7758

              #21
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              I rather like that Mahler 5 that has recently been released by the orchestra that premiered Tge work, the Gurzenich Orchester Koln.
              I wonder if they still have the original parts!

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #22
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                I wonder if they still have the original parts!
                - I'd love to hear the work with the percussion parts that Alma reports her husband having crossed out on the basis of a catastrophic rehearsal. Given more appropriate performance, with an orchestra who knows how the work should "go", I think it might at the very least prove very interesting.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22119

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  No, but that was a while ago...a lot happened between Pesek and Petrenko, some of which was Gerard Schwarz...
                  ...and there was a guy called Groves who did quite a good job years back!

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7758

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    - I'd love to hear the work with the percussion parts that Alma reports her husband having crossed out on the basis of a catastrophic rehearsal. Given more appropriate performance, with an orchestra who knows how the work should "go", I think it might at the very least prove very interesting.
                    They may well have these original percussion parts! That would be interesting!

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #25
                      I would they been destroyed!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        ...and there was a guy called Groves who did quite a good job years back!
                        I'll say! Groves/RLPO "regular" visitors to King George's Hall in Blackburn in the 'seventies - with Atarah Ben-Tovim first flute. I heard a lot of basic (and beyond) repertoire Live for the first time thanks to them. (And Groves recordings with the RPO of Beethoven's First and Sixth Symphonies were the only ones I owned for several years.)
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                          I would [?imagine?] they been destroyed!
                          I've often wondered - and about what happened to the manuscript score of the work that Mahler crossed the parts out from. (Given Alma's fondness for dramatising events, it may be that the rehearsal fiasco and consequent alterations never actually happened. But if it did ... )
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            I've often wondered - and about what happened to the manuscript score of the work that Mahler crossed the parts out from. (Given Alma's fondness for dramatising events, it may be that the rehearsal fiasco and consequent alterations never actually happened. But if it did ... )
                            The work would sound even more dramatic and be transformed!
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8460

                              #29
                              This afternoon, Alexander Armstrong (yes, I know.....) included a movement from the Piano Concerto No. 2 by Cipriani Potter, recorded by Howard Shelley with tghe Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra.

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                              • gradus
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5607

                                #30
                                The Gulbenkian orchestra based in Lisbon are excellent too.

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