The 2017 Survey of 'Classical' Music on Radio 3

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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    The 2017 Survey of 'Classical' Music on Radio 3


    Welcome to my 9th annual review of ‘Classical Music’ on Radio 3. For details of how this is done/calculated please see the earlier reviews. I have kept to the changes I introduced last year to the way the information is presented:

    Summary below:
    • The raw data with the actual number of pieces/chunks instead of rounding to the nearest 5.
    • I thought it would be more useful to show the total average per composer over the previous 8 years in comparison, instead of the percentage difference from the previous 2 years’ figures.
    • I’ve kept the composer list to those with 50 or more pieces/chunks broadcast, however
    If you would like the figures for 2017 for other composers, as well as their average from the previous 8 years let me know and I will be happy to supply them for you.

    Though I cannot guarantee that the figures for each composer are 100% accurate as I’m not perfect and can miss the odd piece/chunk, I would say that it’s around 99% accurate and I use the same method each year to try and maintain consistency of approach.

    After a promising start the year drifted back towards the bad old days of RW. There was a 1.7% increase in pieces/chunks from 2016, mostly due to the revamped Inessential Classics and the post Intune mix. The same old warhorses are as prominent as ever, with a Hungarian Dance & Debussy Prelude approximately on average every 4 days, a chunk from Mendelssohn’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream on average once a week. The Tchaikovsky Ballets accounting for over 20% of the Tchaikovsky played. The Planets accounting for 34% of the Holst played, the Debussy Prelude de l’apres midi.. being played 36 times.

    Anniversary Composers
    This was all over the place. Monteverdi & Telemann doing reasonably well, but a bit less than I expected. Adams & Glass on a par with what I’d expect. Kodaly however had one of his poorest years since my survey started, what happened? Was his 50th death anniversary overlooked? Granados with the luck of a 100th death anniversary in 2016 followed by a 150th Birth Anniversary in 2017 had a good year. Gade did get some welcome attention as did Koechlin & Beach. But Arnell, Mehul, Peterson-Berger, Johan Stamitz & Robert Ward hardly featured at all.

    Winners and losers
    The Anniversary of the 1917 revolution obviously benefitted Russian composers, but better known composers tended to dominate, and the representation of lesser known ones was patchy, with some notable ones such as Shebalin not having a single piece broadcast all year. The infatuation with Debussy & Ravel shows no sign of abating & with another Debussy anniversary this year I expect we’ll get swamped again. Domenico Scarlatti had a very good year with comfortably his highest total since I began in 2009, I wonder what the reason for this was? Mahler was as usual over played but composers such as Berlioz, Liszt, Mendelssohn & Verdi had relatively poor years. With British music it was the usual mixed bag but with a marked tendency to play short works & chunks rather than larger scale pieces. Largely it was much along the same lines as recent years, with R3 remaining a shadow of what it once was.
    Figures for symphonies in 2017 will follow later (hopefully).

    Continued below:
    Key is as follows: Position in 2017 - Composer - 2017 Total - 2009-16 Average

    1 BACH J S • 1746 • 1439
    2 MOZART W A • 1353 • 1369
    3 BEETHOVEN • 1001 • 1013
    4 SCHUBERT • 926 • 992
    5 BRAHMS • 731 • 742
    6 HANDEL • 708 • 756
    7 CHOPIN • 697 • 702
    8 HAYDN F J • 656 • 699
    9 DEBUSSY • 546 • 526
    10 TCHAIKOVSKY • 532 • 498
    11 DVORAK • 492 • 504
    11 SCHUMANN R • 492 • 543
    13 RAVEL • 472 • 435
    14 MENDELSSOHN FELIX • 455 • 537
    15 VIVALDI • 410 • 459
    16 RACHMANINOV • 388 • 322
    16 SIBELIUS • 388 • 337
    18 BRITTEN • 386 • 377
    19 ELGAR • 372 • 345
    20 PURCELL H • 364 • 341
    21 SHOSTAKOVICH • 347 • 259
    21 STRAUSS R • 347 • 360
    23 LISZT • 316 • 395
    24 GRIEG • 307 • 313
    25 TELEMANN • 299 • 218
    26 VAUGHAN WILLIAMS • 297 • 281
    27 MONTEVERDI • 275 • 165
    28 PROKOFIEV S • 270 • 264
    29 MAHLER G • 258 • 199
    30 WAGNER R • 255 • 254
    31 SAINT-SAENS • 250 • 232
    31 STRAVINSKY • 250 • 254
    33 FAURE • 237 • 247
    34 SCARLATTI D • 217 • 151
    35 VERDI • 195 • 253
    36 ROSSINI • 193 • 193
    37 BARTOK • 183 • 171
    38 POULENC • 182 • 173
    39 BYRD • 174 • 150
    40 GERSHWIN • 165 • 178
    41 BERLIOZ • 156 • 193
    42 BACH C P E • 154 • 142
    43 STRAUSS J II • 150 • 155
    44 SCHOENBERG • 143 • 68
    45 HOLST G • 138 • 138
    46 RAMEAU • 135 • 155
    46 WALTON • 135 • 136
    48 PUCCINI • 134 • 122
    49 RIMSKY KORSAKOV • 131 • 111
    50 BRUCKNER • 127 • 112
    51 COPLAND • 125 • 100
    52 BIZET • 121 • 105
    53 WEBER C M VON • 117 • 142
    54 JANACEK • 112 • 132
    54 MUSSORGSKY • 112 • 86
    56 NIELSEN C • 111 • 136
    57 TALLIS • 110 • 87
    58 BERNSTEIN L • 100 • 91
    59 ADAMS J • 94 • 52
    59 GLASS P • 94 • 49
    61 GRAINGER • 93 • 123
    62 DOWLAND • 92 • 89
    62 GRANADOS • 92 • 47
    62 PART • 92 • 87
    65 LIGETI • 88 • 56
    65 MESSIAEN • 88 • 60
    67 SMETANA • 86 • 105
    68 CORELLI • 84 • 80
    69 KREISLER F • 81 • 72
    70 FINZI • 80 • 55
    71 GLAZUNOV • 79 • 75
    72 DELIUS • 78 • 96
    72 SCRIABIN • 78 • 73
    74 COUPERIN F • 77 • 70
    74 PALESTRINA • 77 • 72
    76 GLINKA • 75 • 62
    76 KODALY • 75 • 82
    78 BRUCH • 74 • 58
    78 DAVIES P MAXWELL • 74 • 42
    78 FALLA • 74 • 74
    81 MACMILLAN J • 73 • 49
    82 SULLIVAN • 72 • 75
    83 GABRIELI G • 71 • 62
    83 PAGANINI • 71 • 68
    83 STANFORD • 71 • 58
    86 FRANCK C • 70 • 75
    86 SCHUMANN C • 70 • 40
    88 RESPIGHI • 69 • 85
    89 WILLIAMS J • 68 • 30
    90 ARNOLD • 67 • 73
    90 PRAETORIUS M • 67 • 29
    92 ALBENIZ • 65 • 66
    92 BORODIN • 65 • 68
    92 HOWELLS • 65 • 52
    95 BRIDGE • 64 • 69
    96 VILLA LOBOS • 63 • 69
    97 MENDELSSOHN FANNY • 62 • 25
    98 BARBER S • 61 • 79
    98 KORNGOLD • 61 • 62
    98 TIPPETT • 61 • 48
    101 BELLINI • 60 • 34
    102 BAX • 59 • 39
    103 GOUNOD • 58 • 57
    103 LULLY • 58 • 50
    105 BUXTEHUDE • 57 • 65
    105 IVES C • 57 • 37
    105 PIAZZOLLA • 57 • 61
    105 WEIR J • 57 • 25
    109 HAHN R • 56 • 31
    110 SATIE • 55 • 83
    111 CHABRIER • 54 • 68
    111 CLARKE R • 54 • 10
    111 SCHUTZ • 54 • 53
    111 SUK • 54 • 58
    115 BIBER • 53 • 54
    115 WEBERN • 53 • 30
    115 WOLF H • 53 • 72
    118 GLUCK • 52 • 65
    119 MARTINU • 51 • 69
    120 BERG ALBAN • 50 • 32
    120 SAINT-GEORGES • 50 • 10
    120 SZYMANOWSKI • 50 • 55
    Last edited by Suffolkcoastal; 02-01-18, 13:27.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Astonishing - and very useful - work, Suffy; many, many thanks. Fascinating reading, too.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30298

      #3
      Stunned into temporary silence, as usual, Suffy. Many thanks - it will take some time to absorb.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        If you would like the figures for 2017 for other composers, as well as their average from the previous 8 years let me know and I will be happy to supply them for you.
        Oh, go on, then - just for me; how did Ferneyhough do?
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          Many thanks SC for all your hard work with the annual survey. I am glad that bridge had quite a few outings this year but saddened by the lack of any Bax?
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Suffolkcoastal
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3290

            #6
            Below is a selection of composers whose music didn't feature at all on R3 in 2017:

            BANCHIERI
            BECK F I
            BERNERS
            BRAGA SANTOS
            BRUN F
            BURGMULLER N
            COWEN F
            CRESTON
            D'ALBERT
            DANIELPOUR
            DIAMOND
            FINE I
            GIULIANI
            GLASS L
            GOETZ
            GOUVY NOTHING SINCE 2010
            GYROWETZ
            HALFFTER
            HAMILTON I
            IVANOVS
            JOACHIM
            JOSEPHS W NOTHING SINCE 2014
            KEURIS
            KIRCHNER L
            KOPPEL H
            KRENEK NOTHING SINCE 2015
            LEKEU
            LYAPUNOV
            MARKEVITCH
            NORDHEIM
            NORHOLM I
            RIETI
            ROOTHAM
            ROSENBERG H NOTHING SINCE 2015
            RUDERS
            RUFINATSCHA
            SCHULLER G
            SHEBALIN
            SIMPSON R NOTHING SINCE 2014
            SOMERVELL
            STEINBERG M
            TOCH
            TOMASEK
            VERMEULEN ANNIVERSARY COMPOSER IN 2017!
            WILSON I
            WILSON T
            ZWILICH

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #7
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              I am ... saddened by the lack of any Bax?
              #102 on the list, Bbm, with 59 works broadcast - a 50% increase on the average number in recent years.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Suffolkcoastal
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3290

                #8
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                Many thanks SC for all your hard work with the annual survey. I am glad that bridge had quite a few outings this year but saddened by the lack of any Bax?
                Bax actually had his best year since I started in 2009 (59 pieces/chunks), though this almost exclusively consisted of Tintagel and small works like Dance in the Sunlight.

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                • Suffolkcoastal
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3290

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Oh, go on, then - just for me; how did Ferneyhough do?
                  Just for you - 3

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                  • Stanley Stewart
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1071

                    #10
                    Mesmerised and fascinated, Sc. Many thanks for your diligence.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                      Just for you - 3


                      That means that I attended a third of the concerts that were broadcast! Beat that, Bach fans!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Lat-Literal
                        Guest
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6983

                        #12
                        So what formula are they using?

                        There must be one otherwise it wouldn't have been so consistent over the best part of a decade.

                        (Perhaps you might humour me as you did last year and comment on, I dunno, the top composers from Canada, Portugal and the Netherlands for starters?)
                        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 02-01-18, 11:08.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37687

                          #13
                          Many, many thanks once again, Suffy, for carrying out this mammoth piece of what, in so many ways, must be a dispiriting exercise!

                          One thing I was marginally encouraged by was noting the bump up for Schoenberg during the past year's broadcasts, albeit not to anything like his work deserves, in my estimate, as being on a par with any of the historical greats always so well represented. Btw I can think of any number of composers not on your list of excludeds who NEVER, EVER get aired on Radio 3, whose names many of us will have discovered reading about 20th century music.

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                          • Suffolkcoastal
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3290

                            #14
                            Here's the data for complete symphonies broadcast on R3 in 2017. One interesting fact is that in every year that I've done the symphonic survey, complete broadcast of Elgar's 1st & 2nd Symphonies have been exactly equal!

                            F J HAYDN 131
                            BEETHOVEN 82 1=11 2=6 3=11 4=7 5=11 6=9 7=12 8=11 9=4
                            MOZART W A 73
                            MAHLER 51 1=11 2=6 3=3 4=9 5=4 6=11 7=2 8=0 9=3 10=2
                            MENDELSSOHN 46 String =11 1=3 1=1 3=8 4=14 5=9
                            TCHAIKOVSKY 46 Manfred=3 1=7 2=4 3=0 4=9 5=10 6=13
                            DVORAK 41 1=0 2=1 3=1 4=0 5=2 6=4 7=9 8=12 9=12
                            SHOSTAKOVICH 41 1=2 2=1 3=0 4=1 5=5 6=1 7=2 8=3 9=2 10=9 11=5 12=5 13=0 14=1 15=4
                            SIBELIUS 40 Kullervo=1 1=5 2=9 3=1 4=2 5=11 6=5 7=6
                            BRAHMS 39 1=11 2=9 3=11 4=8
                            PROKOFIEV 34 Sinfonietta=1 1=21 2=0 3=4 4=0 5=5 6=1 7=2
                            SCHUBERT 29 1=0 2=1 3=5 4=3 5=5 6=3 7=0 8=9 9=3 10=0
                            BRUCKNER 24 0=0 1=0 2=1 3=1 4=3 5=1 6=4 7=8 8=2 9=4
                            BACH CPE 23
                            SCHUMANN 22 1=4 2=9 3=9 4=0
                            ELGAR 17 1=7 2=7 3=3
                            RACHMANINOV 15 Youth=1 1=0 2=12 3=2
                            VAUGHAN WILLIAMS 15 1=1 2=3 3=3 4=2 5=3 6=0 7=0 8=0 9=3
                            ABEL 14
                            BERLIOZ 12 SF=10 HiI=0 R&J=2
                            NIELSEN 12 1=0 2=5 3=0 4=1 5=3 6=3
                            Last edited by Suffolkcoastal; 02-01-18, 12:56.

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                            • Suffolkcoastal
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3290

                              #15
                              Here's the Symphony breakdown for Haydn & Mozart:

                              F J HAYDN in 1st column W A MOZART in 2nd column
                              1=2 1=5
                              2=3 5=4
                              4=2 6=1
                              6=9 13=1
                              8=1 16=2
                              11=1 23=4
                              12=2 25=7
                              14=1 26=2
                              16=2 29=2
                              17=1 31=6
                              22=5 32=3
                              24=1 33=2
                              26=4 34=2
                              34=1 35=4
                              39=3 36=3
                              43=1 38=9
                              44=3 39=3
                              45=3 40=4
                              49=9 41=6
                              56=1 K121=1
                              57=1 K76=1
                              58=1 K97=1
                              59=3
                              60=1
                              64=2
                              67=2
                              68=1
                              70=2
                              73=4
                              82=5
                              83=2
                              84=1
                              88=7
                              90=2
                              93=3
                              94=3
                              95=3
                              96=5
                              97=2
                              99=6
                              100=5
                              101=1
                              102=2
                              103=7
                              104=5

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