Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

[subcontrabass]

Clarinets are a different case, since their conical bore (rather than cylindrical like the others)

Other way round. Clarinets have cylindrical bore. Oboes and bassoons have conical bore expanding from the reed end. Metal flutes are cylindrical, but wooden flutes are conical with the wide end at the mouthpiece.

[Pabmusic]

Other way round. Clarinets have cylindrical bore. Oboes and bassoons have conical bore expanding from the reed end. Metal flutes are cylindrical, but wooden flutes are conical with the wide end at the mouthpiece.

Well, thanks. The point I was trying to make ( not too well) was that the effective end of the clarinet's acoustic length lies beyond the bell, which causes the problem of overblowing a twelfth.

[vinteuil]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?
So negative.

"There is an erotics of dislike. It can be (I am indebted to a young friend for the helpful phrase) 'a physical thing'. Roland Barthes observes somewhere that the meaning of any list of likes and dislikes is to be found in its assertion of the fact that each of us has a body, and that this body is different from everyone else's. This is tosh. The real meaning of our dislikes is that they define us by separating us from what is outside us; they separate the self from the world in a way that mere banal liking cannot do. 'Gourmandism is an act of judgement, by which we give preference to those things which are agreeable to our taste over those which are not' (Brillat-Savarin). To like something is to want to ingest it and, in that sense, is to submit to the world; to like something is to succumb, in a small but contentful way, to death. But dislike hardens the perimeter between the self and the world, and brings a clarity to the object isolated in its light. Any dislike is in some measure a triumph of definition, distinction, and discrimination - a triumph of life."

John Lanchester : "The Debt to Pleasure"

[Serial_Apologist]

"There is an erotics of dislike. It can be (I am indebted to a young friend for the helpful phrase) 'a physical thing'. Roland Barthes observes somewhere that the meaning of any list of likes and dislikes is to be found in its assertion of the fact that each of us has a body, and that this body is different from everyone else's. This is tosh. The real meaning of our dislikes is that they define us by separating us from what is outside us; they separate the self from the world in a way that mere banal liking cannot do. 'Gourmandism is an act of judgement, by which we give preference to those things which are agreeable to our taste over those which are not' (Brillat-Savarin). To like something is to want to ingest it and, in that sense, is to submit to the world; to like something is to succumb, in a small but contentful way, to death. But dislike hardens the perimeter between the self and the world, and brings a clarity to the object isolated in its light. Any dislike is in some measure a triumph of definition, distinction, and discrimination - a triumph of life."

John Lanchester : "The Debt to Pleasure"

The voice of a Puritan?

[Barbirollians]

Now I have discovered Barbirolli and Caballe in the Verdi Requiem - it is off the list !

[cloughie]

Can’t remember if I contributed to this before and not scrolling all to find out but:

1 Ravel:Bolero
2 Beethoven:Sym 9(4)
3 Cage: 4’33” (Far too noisy)
4 Mendelssohn:Elijah - and any of his other choral works that go on too long.
5 Haydn:Creation - and any of his other choral works that go on too long.

[Braunschlag]

In for a penny .......
1-Mendelssohn Organ Sonatas
2-Elgar Organ Sonata
3-Bach St Matthew Passion
4-Monteverdi Operas
5-Mahler 3

[Bella Kemp]

In for a penny .......
1-Mendelssohn Organ Sonatas
2-Elgar Organ Sonata
3-Bach St Matthew Passion
4-Monteverdi Operas
5-Mahler 3

I was going to comment - but 3 and 5! I am speechless with horror! Bless you for being bold, but not to like the Bach Passions and Mahler 3 is like confessing to loathing sunlight.

[LMcD]

Any 5 'compositions' by Steve Reich.

[cloughie]

Any 5 'compositions' by Steve Reich.

Or those who write in similar fashion!

[Braunschlag]

I know, I know. Better to get these things out of the closet every now and then. I have tried, especially with Mahler 3, numerous recordings, but without any enlightenment. As for the Bach, I just switch off after a while. Nothing to do with the religious aspects whatsoever, it’s all of those interminable DC arias. Conversely, or even perversely, I’m a huge Gerontius fan. Admitting that on here is akin to lobbing a musical hand-grenade but I’ve got my flak jacket on in readiness!

[Ein Heldenleben]

One of the reasons why some aren’t keen on Oratorio or symphonies with a choral element is that they just don’t like the sound. It’s partly about intonation and partly about the vocal and instrumental lines getting in the way of each other. It’s also partly that voices against orchestra doesn’t sound that good : they are just too different in terms of timbre . I know some first rate musicians who think that. My problem is not that but the length and the oh crikey here comes another fugue thoughts that heretically cross my mind . I much prefer the short , punchy use made of chorus in Opera by Verdi for example. Or unaccompanied choral...

[LeMartinPecheur]

Any 5 'compositions' by Steve Reich.

In this context Glass surpasses (underpasses?) Reich for me any day of the week! Some Reich I like a lot (Different Trains, the happier bits anyway) though I was massively disappointed by his City Life when I heard it live and new in 1995.

[Bella Kemp]

I know, I know. Better to get these things out of the closet every now and then. I have tried, especially with Mahler 3, numerous recordings, but without any enlightenment. As for the Bach, I just switch off after a while. Nothing to do with the religious aspects whatsoever, it’s all of those interminable DC arias. Conversely, or even perversely, I’m a huge Gerontius fan. Admitting that on here is akin to lobbing a musical hand-grenade but I’ve got my flak jacket on in readiness!

I would cross the Sahara desert with only a camel to avoid Gerontius and yet Mahler 3 is probably the one thing I would hope to see survive were the whole of western civilisation to come crashing down in flood or flames - so I guess we're quits!

[Serial_Apologist]

In this context Glass surpasses (underpasses?) Reich for me any day of the week! Some Reich I like a lot (Different Trains, the happier bits anyway) though I was massively disappointed by his City Life when I heard it live and new in 1995.

As was I. And by Reich's cringeworthy exposition delivered on air on the latter piece, with its utterly uncool uses of samples that were embarrassing enough in themselves.