Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8477

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Probably of minmal interest!

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    • Bella Kemp
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      • Aug 2014
      • 469

      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      Reading Alan Bennett's most recent volume of diaries on one day he mentions ( and I think they may have turned up on his Private Passions ) that he would be happy to never hear again .

      They were

      Schubert Symphony No 5
      Beethoven Symphony No 6
      Rimsky Korsakov Scheherazade
      Mussorgsky/Ravel Pictures at an Exhibition
      Mozart Symphony No 40

      He added it's not that I have heard them too often I just don't care for them .

      Though when on Private Passions he did suggest he may have heard the Pastoral too often and said he loved Schubert but found the Fifth Symphony too saccharine .

      I suspect for most of us not getting on with a piece of music is just that they don't trigger an emotional response in you rather than by musicological analysis finding faults of construction in a piece .

      I was prompted to think we're there five pieces of central repertoire that I just don't care for despite trying . I came up with

      Bruckner 5 - unlike just about everything else he wrote well maybe not the study symphony it just does nothing for me and seems to go on for ever even in the Jochum Tahra account

      Wagner Das Rheingold I would rather just read the synopsis and get on to Die Walkure

      Bartok's String Quartets - I have tried and have two complete sets both seem excellent but they just are hard work

      Orff Carmina Burana - I cannot abide it end of story even without knowing about the unpleasant composer

      Until I heard the Horenstein I would have added Mahler 8 as even Solti's hands it just didn't hang together .

      So my fifth choice would be Stravinsky's Les Noces - in fact I don't really like any of his vocal works .

      What are yours ? Can you identify why you don't care for them - with the exception of Pictures I would be very sorry not to hear any of Mr Bennett's list again .

      For me there are pieces that have simply worn out - and my initial list would match Alan Bennet's quite closely.But recently I chanced upon the recordings of Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and Mozart's 40th that I heard first of all (Klemperer and Furtwangler respectively) and it was a revelation. For so long these works had become tired and unimaginative to my jaded ears, and then suddenly I heard them again as if for the first time and something of that initial pure joy flooded back.

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      • pastoralguy
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7760

        Originally posted by Bella Kemp View Post
        For me there are pieces that have simply worn out - and my initial list would match Alan Bennet's quite closely.But recently I chanced upon the recordings of Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and Mozart's 40th that I heard first of all (Klemperer and Furtwangler respectively) and it was a revelation. For so long these works had become tired and unimaginative to my jaded ears, and then suddenly I heard them again as if for the first time and something of that initial pure joy flooded back.
        I've always felt that the Pastoral symphony is the most difficult to bring off convincingly in a cycle. All that F Major and a second movement that can, in the wrong hands, be interminable. The Klemperer Philharmonia recording is extremely good indeed and I'm delighted you've found that particular performance.

        Mozart 40? Well, for me, even conducted badly it can pack a punch.

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        • DracoM
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          • Mar 2007
          • 12973

          Enigma Variations
          Dream of Gerontius
          - my top 2

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
            Enigma Variations
            Dream of Gerontius
            - my top 2

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              Enigma Variations
              Dream of Gerontius
              - my top 2
              If you ever get an unwanted ticket, please let me know.

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              • DracoM
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                • Mar 2007
                • 12973

                Yes, indeed! I DO realise that such a pair of dislikes might just raise eyebrows!!

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6459

                  I see the Rattle VPO Gerontius is on the wireless next week

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                  • Zucchini
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 917

                    What's a wireless?

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                    • ahinton
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16123

                      Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                      What's a wireless?
                      A device without wires, I guess; as best I recall, member Sydney Grew used to mention them de temps en temps when he posted here...

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                      • Alison
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6459

                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        A device without wires, I guess; as best I recall, member Sydney Grew used to mention them de temps en temps when he posted here...

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                        • french frank
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30302

                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          A device without wires, I guess;
                          I don't think so. The wirelesses I remember, like the one we had in our village school, had all sorts of valves, funny noises - and wires coming out of it.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            I see the Rattle VPO Gerontius is on the wireless next week
                            I wonder whether they have sorted out the amateurish compressed dynamic range. I hope so because there were some great things about this performance.

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                            • Bella Kemp
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                              • Aug 2014
                              • 469

                              'All that F major'! - perhaps we should start a new thread on keys we simply despise!

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Originally posted by Bella Kemp View Post
                                'All that F major'! - perhaps we should start a new thread on keys we simply despise!
                                That's easy: B Flat major.

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