Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

[Barbirollians]

I can't think of any one piece of music I hate, though there are a few I'd rather not emerge from the duvet for. The 'power of music' theme currently being aired by Suzy Klein on BBC4 rather illustrates how something like the Horst Wessel Song can polarise a population into lovers and haters. I'm sure Barbs intended that we should discuss his thread title with a certain lightness and good humour?

That was the point it was intended to be light hearted - as in fact if one digs it out on iplayer Bennett and Michael Berkeley's discussion is . Why should one have to pretend one likes everything ?

[Beresford]

I think it can be enlightening to learn what music people don't like, if they can say why. Not interested if their dislike is just because they have heard it too often, (remember when James Galway seemed to be played all the time) or they just found it boring, or too plinky plonky.
I would be interested to know the dislikes of the BBC presenters - music they know is good but just don't like - but I suspect they are under strict orders not to reveal such, particularly Petroc.
It's fun to read between the lines of Andrew M's comments in Record Review, and he wouldn't play a disc if he didn't find something of value in it.

[cloughie]

I think it can be enlightening to learn what music people don't like, if they can say why. Not interested if their dislike is just because they have heard it too often, (remember when James Galway seemed to be played all the time) or they just found it boring, or too plinky plonky.
I would be interested to know the dislikes of the BBC presenters - music they know is good but just don't like - but I suspect they are under strict orders not to reveal such, particularly Petroc.
It's fun to read between the lines of Andrew M's comments in Record Review, and he wouldn't play a disc if he didn't find something of value in it.

I seem to remember Rob Cowan mentioning one or two, I think Carmina Burana was not a favourite of his.

[french frank]

That was the point it was intended to be light hearted - as in fact if one digs it out on iplayer Bennett and Michael Berkeley's discussion is . Why should one have to pretend one likes everything ?

Yes, if anyone doesn't like/disapproves of the negativity of the subject - very clearly signalled in the thread title - why read the thread?

I was given Carmina Burana by someone who'd been singing it recently in her choir, and I assumed it was probably enormous fun to sing …

I find that some pieces of music (familiar and unfamiliar) can, for different reasons, be absolute triggers for switching off, running away, burying my head under the bedclothes, or crying, "Please make it stop!" I don't accept that 'music' in some vague generic sense is something very pleasant, enjoyable or generally life-enhancing. These different reactions here are quite interesting to me even if they aren't to others.

[BBMmk2]

Agreed with someone who said Philip Glass's music is empty! Also Ravel's Bolero.

[Barbirollians]

Yes, if anyone doesn't like/disapproves of the negativity of the subject - very clearly signalled in the thread title - why read the thread?

I was given Carmina Burana by someone who'd been singing it recently in her choir, and I assumed it was probably enormous fun to sing …

I find that some pieces of music (familiar and unfamiliar) can, for different reasons, be absolute triggers for switching off, running away, burying my head under the bedclothes, or crying, "Please make it stop!" I don't accept that 'music' in some vague generic sense is something very pleasant, enjoyable or generally life-enhancing. These different reactions here are quite interesting to me even if they aren't to others.

And there can be pieces you like that you turn off because they do not suit your mood at the time .

[cloughie]

Agreed with someone who said Philip Glass's music is empty! Also Ravel's Bolero.

[Beef Oven!]

Yes, if anyone doesn't like/disapproves of the negativity of the subject - very clearly signalled in the thread title - why read the thread?

IMV, it's not about reading the thread, I tend to peek at all of them. It's about whether or not to participate, and I didn't. The point is that there is so much negativity in this forum. Whether it's about a BaL format, BaL presenter Proms concerts, Gergiev, Karajan, Goodall or modern music (e.g. the silly comments about Lachenmann et al), the focus seems so negative and the glass appears to be half empty too often. And there is plenty of reenforcement of this attitude e.g. your comment in the post I'm replying to. And the group reinforcement leads the forum to believe that what makes us look bad as a community is the number of spats we have etc. What makes us look bad is that we are negative whiners who don't know a good thing when we see it.

Take a look out of the window. Not everyone behaves like this. With the amount of knowledge, talent, experience and brain-power in this forum, I think the way it behaves is a real shame.

Just my opinion, of course.

[french frank]

What makes us look bad is that we are negative whiners who don't know a good thing when we see it.

Well, it could be just that in some circumstances what, in your opinion, is a good thing, isn't obviously so, and tastes and preferences vary; and that you are perceiving the disagreement with your view as negativity where it's no more than people having different tastes and giving voice to them.

But there is also the possibility that when people enjoy things, they are more often content to enjoy them quietly without feeling the need to tell the world how good they are: they are the "winners". Those who have what are bad experiences for them are the "losers" and are more likely to wail, especially if they have been deprived of something they valued - like the evening repeat of CotW.

Though I've never personally perceived the forum as being predominantly 'negative'.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Hmm. Let's not be too negative about members of the forum. If there were a thread about the 5 pieces we couldn't be without, I'm sure that would attract many comments too.

[DracoM]

Well, it could be just that in some circumstances what, in your opinion, is a good thing, isn't obviously so, and tastes and preferences vary; and that you are perceiving the disagreement with your view as negativity where it's no more than people having different tastes and giving voice to them.

But there is also the possibility that when people enjoy things, they are more often content to enjoy them quietly without feeling the need to tell the world how good they are: they are the "winners". Those who have what are bad experiences for them are the "losers" and are more likely to wail, especially if they have been deprived of something they valued - like the evening repeat of CotW.

Though I've never personally perceived the forum as being predominantly 'negative'.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

If there were a thread about the 5 pieces we couldn't be without, I'm sure that would attract many comments too.

It's been going for three hours.

[Barbirollians]

[cloughie]

Well, it could be just that in some circumstances what, in your opinion, is a good thing, isn't obviously so, and tastes and preferences vary; and that you are perceiving the disagreement with your view as negativity where it's no more than people having different tastes and giving voice to them.

But there is also the possibility that when people enjoy things, they are more often content to enjoy them quietly without feeling the need to tell the world how good they are: they are the "winners". Those who have what are bad experiences for them are the "losers" and are more likely to wail, especially if they have been deprived of something they valued - like the evening repeat of CotW.

Though I've never personally perceived the forum as being predominantly 'negative'.

Very well put ff.

[Beef Oven!]

Though I've never personally perceived the forum as being predominantly 'negative'.

And there's the rub.