Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

[Beef Oven!]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?

So negative.

Glass half empty.

Low self esteem is the driver I'd say.

I'd never start a thread about anything other than the life-affirming power of music.

A lot of the attitude in this forum stinks.

Many unhappy people in here.

For goodness sake, let's celebrate the amazing music that's available to us - we only live once!

And good grief, we are so lucky we love music - the rest of the population don't know what they're missing and must watch telly!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?
So negative.
Glass half empty.
Low self esteem is the driver I'd say.
I'd never start a thread about anything other than the life-affirming power of music.
A lot of the attitude in this forum stinks.
Many unhappy people in here.
For goodness sake, let's celebrate the amazing music that's available to us - we only live once!
And good grief, we are so lucky we love music - the rest of the population don't know what they're missing and must watch telly!

My own heart sank when I saw the Thread title (I was away - and without Wi-Fi/Broadband access - when it started) as I don't find these "negative List" Threads very encouraging, not least because they very often repeatedly list much of the works, composers, and performers that have most "lifted" and inspired me throughout my life. But I wouldn't go so far as to ascribe motives for other people's contributions to such Threads - I understand a sense of curiosity and playful letting off steam at pieces/composers/performers whose reputations won't be at all affected by such posts. (And not a little mischief-making by suggesting items that it's known other Forumistas adore.) It doesn't have to demonstrate "low self-esteem" or an "unhappy" personality.

There can be genuine insights into Music by individuals' genuine discussion of the features that they dislike - this can (and often has on this Forum) focus those who enjoy the pieces onto aspects they'd overlooked, and re-ignite their enthusiasm. My problem with these "lists" is that there isn't enough time to devote to such specifics, and comment is restricted to dull and vague generalisations: "I've heard it too often", "hackneyed and overplayed warhorse", "bores me to death" ...

I much prefer reading Forumistas' (or anyone's) enthusiasm for a work/composer. EdgeleyRob's for Alwyn and (less so) Alkan has led to my own interest being piqued to my great delight - and I'll get round to sampling Weinberg some time, too. (And the barrage of enthusiastic posts in praise of R-K's Scheherazade on another Thread prompted me to listen to that work a couple of times again ... which was very useful in confirming that my original opinion was right!) I'd love more of these sorts of Threads, messel'n. But don't let that stop anyone from continuing to offer lists of all the pieces I adore: why should my day be full of sunshine?

[Pabmusic]

My own heart sank when I saw the Thread title (I was away - and without Wi-Fi/Broadband access - when it started) as I don't find these "negative List" Threads very encouraging, not least because they very often repeatedly list much of the works, composers, and performers that have most "lifted" and inspired me throughout my life. But I wouldn't go so far as to ascribe motives for other people's contributions to such Threads - I understand a sense of curiosity and playful letting off steam at pieces/composers/performers whose reputations won't be at all affected by such posts. (And not a little mischief-making by suggesting items that it's known other Forumistas adore.) It doesn't have to demonstrate "low self-esteem" or an "unhappy" personality...

How I agree with you. The quality of music is not determined by what I, or you, or the Bishop of Timbuctoo likes or dislikes.

In very general terms there is nothing I actively 'dislike' - even if I'd not go out of my way to hear it. I write my own pieces, and I generally think they're worth it, but I'd never try to score them (this is a 7.6; that is only a 3.7). They are simply expressions that I wanted to -- well -- express. If they cause some emotion in you, even vomiting, then I've got through to someone.

I don't think there's a single piece of music I'd take steps to avoid, but there are very many that do little for me (sorry, Bruckner - and I have tried).

[MickyD]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?

So negative.

Glass half empty.

Low self esteem is the driver I'd say.

I'd never start a thread about anything other than the life-affirming power of music.

A lot of the attitude in this forum stinks.

Many unhappy people in here.

For goodness sake, let's celebrate the amazing music that's available to us - we only live once!

And good grief, we are so lucky we love music - the rest of the population don't know what they're missing and must watch telly!

Well said, Beefy. I look around at the thousands of CDs in my house and think how lucky I am to have so many riches to hand - not to mention all the vast range of things that one can listen to for free, nowadays, too.

[ardcarp]

I can't think of any one piece of music I hate, though there are a few I'd rather not emerge from the duvet for. The 'power of music' theme currently being aired by Suzy Klein on BBC4 rather illustrates how something like the Horst Wessel Song can polarise a population into lovers and haters. I'm sure Barbs intended that we should discuss his thread title with a certain lightness and good humour?

[vinteuil]

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... o, I think one can relish dislike.

As Dr Johnson noted, approvingly, of his friend Dr Bathurst - "Dear Bathurst was a man to my heart's content; he hated a fool and he hated a rogue, and he hated a Whig: he was a very good hater." [Hester Lynch Piozzi, Anecdotes of the late Samuel Johnson LL.D. ]

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot : I would that thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." [Revelation 3: 15,16]


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[MrGongGong]

One of the questions I sometimes ask students is to
think of a piece of music that they "hate" but think is "brilliant" or "great".

Lists of pieces that people are tired of hearing can be a bit dull
BUT exploring taste (and "value") can be interesting


(I'm sure i've said this before)

Teenage student after listening to Ligeti's Volumina whilst following the score
"I don't like it at all but it is fantastic, isn't it!"

[gradus]

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... o, I think one can relish dislike.

As Dr Johnson noted, approvingly, of his friend Dr Bathurst - "Dear Bathurst was a man to my heart's content; he hated a fool and he hated a rogue, and he hated a Whig: he was a very good hater." [Hester Lynch Piozzi, Anecdotes of the late Samuel Johnson LL.D. ]

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot : I would that thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." [Revelation 3: 15,16]


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One of the pleasures of life is to spit fury in the comfort of one's home, infrequently at music, usually at the News or current affairs discussions on the occasions - party conferences are a favourite - when my sense of outrage bursts through. The cats don't seem to mind at all but other people might, so best kept to the fireside.

[Stanfordian]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?

So negative.

Glass half empty.

Low self esteem is the driver I'd say.

I'd never start a thread about anything other than the life-affirming power of music.

A lot of the attitude in this forum stinks.

Many unhappy people in here.

For goodness sake, let's celebrate the amazing music that's available to us - we only live once!

And good grief, we are so lucky we love music - the rest of the population don't know what they're missing and must watch telly!

Steady on Beefy,

One or two sweeping generalisations spring to mind here! It's not fair to encourage censorship just because you don't like something!

[Sir Velo]

So negative.

Glass half empty.

How dare you suggest Glass' music is empty!

[Stanfordian]

How dare you suggest Glass' music is empty!

Many a true word has been spoken in jest!

[cloughie]

How dare you suggest Glass' music is empty!

It's worse than that!

[Beef Oven!]

How dare you suggest Glass' music is empty!

[ahinton]

How dare you suggest Glass' music is empty!

Perhaps it gave him a fillip to do so.

[cloughie]

And isn't it slightly worrying that in a forum for music addicts like us, we should have threads that invite us to shout about the 5 pieces of music that we hate?

So negative.

Glass half empty.

Low self esteem is the driver I'd say.

I'd never start a thread about anything other than the life-affirming power of music.

A lot of the attitude in this forum stinks.

Many unhappy people in here.

For goodness sake, let's celebrate the amazing music that's available to us - we only live once!

And good grief, we are so lucky we love music - the rest of the population don't know what they're missing and must watch telly!

Yes, Beefy but we can also pick and choose what we wish to listen to and which we want to avoid. I don't think this is particularly negative. None of us know when our time is up so we need to decide what to explore, what to listen to, what we want to perform and yes what we want turns us off, in the the full range of music genres available to us.