Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11709

    Five Pieces you would be happy to never hear again

    Reading Alan Bennett's most recent volume of diaries on one day he mentions ( and I think they may have turned up on his Private Passions ) that he would be happy to never hear again .

    They were

    Schubert Symphony No 5
    Beethoven Symphony No 6
    Rimsky Korsakov Scheherazade
    Mussorgsky/Ravel Pictures at an Exhibition
    Mozart Symphony No 40

    He added it's not that I have heard them too often I just don't care for them .

    Though when on Private Passions he did suggest he may have heard the Pastoral too often and said he loved Schubert but found the Fifth Symphony too saccharine .

    I suspect for most of us not getting on with a piece of music is just that they don't trigger an emotional response in you rather than by musicological analysis finding faults of construction in a piece .

    I was prompted to think we're there five pieces of central repertoire that I just don't care for despite trying . I came up with

    Bruckner 5 - unlike just about everything else he wrote well maybe not the study symphony it just does nothing for me and seems to go on for ever even in the Jochum Tahra account

    Wagner Das Rheingold I would rather just read the synopsis and get on to Die Walkure

    Bartok's String Quartets - I have tried and have two complete sets both seem excellent but they just are hard work

    Orff Carmina Burana - I cannot abide it end of story even without knowing about the unpleasant composer

    Until I heard the Horenstein I would have added Mahler 8 as even Solti's hands it just didn't hang together .

    So my fifth choice would be Stravinsky's Les Noces - in fact I don't really like any of his vocal works .

    What are yours ? Can you identify why you don't care for them - with the exception of Pictures I would be very sorry not to hear any of Mr Bennett's list again .
  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
    • 9315

    #2
    Amusing the first time heard:
    a) Rossini ‘Cat Duet’ – Meoow, meoow
    b) Leopold Mozart ‘Toy Symphony’ – Cuckoo, cuckoo
    c) Peter Maxwell Davies ‘An Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise’ – The overused drunken wedding device and that bloody awful piper.
    d) Beethoven ‘Wellington’s Victory’ – Too much bombast!
    Over familiarity:
    e) Berlioz's spectacular ‘Symphonie fantastique’ – I respect the work but I have attended far too many performances.

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    • pastoralguy
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7766

      #3
      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
      Amusing the first time heard:
      a) Rossini ‘Cat Duet’ – Meoow, meoow
      b) Leopold Mozart ‘Toy Symphony’ – Cuckoo, cuckoo
      c) Peter Maxwell Davies ‘An Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise’ – The overused drunken wedding device and that bloody awful piper.
      d) Beethoven ‘Wellington’s Victory’ – Too much bombast!
      Over familiarity:
      e) Berlioz's spectacular ‘Symphonie fantastique’ – I respect the work but I have attended far too many performances.
      I'm with you on the first three, Stan but would substitute...

      d. Gluck's Melodie. Just so mawkish.

      e. Bruckner's Eighth Symphony. Yes, I know it's one of the crowning glories of Western Civilisation but it bores me to stone! And I've heard some top class performances from Wand and Abbado but it leaves me cold. My loss, I suppose.

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      • Ferretfancy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #4
        Almost anything by Khachaturyan , a worthless composer IMHP, but especially Spartacus because I worked on the Onedin Line series and had to hear the bloody piece over and over again.

        Vivaldi The Seasons, especially when on hold.

        Mozart Piano Concerto K467 slow movement 'Elvira Madigan ' again especially when on hold.

        Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition. This must have been the first Proms season when it didn't get played

        Finally , Mahler symphonies 6, 7, 8 & 9 plus the unfinished No. 10. Concentrated neurosis, too tiresome to bother with.

        PS I've just noticed that Ilan Volkov conducted Pictures with the BBC SO on 26th July - he should have known better.

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        • pastoralguy
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7766

          #5
          Oddly enough Ff, Vivaldi's most popular work would have been on my list until about a year ago. I used to play them ad-nauseam when I played in a small string group that used to tour them every year. After it disbanded I couldn't bear to hear them but I've come back to them recently and enjoy their descriptive properties.

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          • makropulos
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1674

            #6
            Tough to do but a bit of fun. Here are five of my possible contenders:
            Berlioz: Harold in Italy
            Beethoven: Mass in C
            Busoni: Doktor Faust
            Berg: Chamber Concerto
            Rodrigo: Concierto de Aranjuez

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            • Pulcinella
              Host
              • Feb 2014
              • 10965

              #7
              Only five?
              There's loads of stuff I'd be happy never to hear again: most Proms commissions for starters.
              Mind you, most of them may well never get a second performance anyway, so maybe I need not worry.

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              • Suffolkcoastal
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3290

                #8
                Mahler: Symphony No 3
                Mahler: Symphony No 8
                Shapero: Symphony for Classical Orchestra
                Britten: The Golden Vanity
                Faure: Apres un reve

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  Blumine when mistakenly placed out of context in Mahler's 1896 1st Symphony.
                  What Orff did with/to Carmina Burana.
                  The Adagio of Mahler's 10th in its Krenek-Schalk/Zemlinsky version.
                  Most of Philip Glass's music composed after 1984.
                  The trinity of big choral works by Elgar.

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                  • Richard Barrett
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                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Blumine when mistakenly placed out of context in Mahler's 1896 1st Symphony.
                    Oh come on Bryn, it's OK now and again.

                    Five pieces? That's a tough one. Five composers any of whose works I would be happy not to hear again? Much easier. I won't include any living composers since there's always some small chance that they'll come up with something new and different. Anyway: Elgar, Delius, Britten, Rachmaninov, Smetana, Saint-Saëns, Reger. Oops, that's six.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26540

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      Oops, that's six.
                      Seven actually!

                      I'm having trouble getting down to 5 too...
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        Oh come on Bryn, it's OK now and again ...
                        I have no problem at all with it in the context of the Budapest or Hamburg versions of the Symphonic-Poem in 2 Parts, 'Titan'. It's placing it between the re-orchestrated first and second movements of the 1896 1st Symphony that I would rather not hear again. Fine on its own, too.

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                        • Richard Barrett
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Seven actually!
                          Blame my unquenchable enthusiasm.

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12260

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            What are yours ?
                            None. I don't have any. There might be the odd piece here and there that I don't particularly care for (eg Liszt PC1 & 2, RVW Sea Symphony) but I would never say that I don't want to hear them again. The trick in avoiding over-familiarity is to steer clear of some pieces for a while then go back to them.

                            On the whole I'd much rather hear of boarder's enthusiasms than negative reactions to pieces I love! One or two of you have dropped a notch or two in my estimation with your nominations
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Barbirollians
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11709

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                              None. I don't have any. There might be the odd piece here and there that I don't particularly care for (eg Liszt PC1 & 2, RVW Sea Symphony) but I would never say that I don't want to hear them again. The trick in avoiding over-familiarity is to steer clear of some pieces for a while then go back to them.

                              On the whole I'd much rather hear of boarder's enthusiasms than negative reactions to pieces I love! One or two of you have dropped a notch or two in my estimation with your nominations
                              With the exception of Carmina Burana I am sure it is my problem rather than the composer's !

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