YouTube videos with score

[teamsaint]

Coincidentally, I was watching/listening to this the other day.

Only partial coincidence, as your post prodded me to listen to the work, and I just happened to find this video.

Here's another. ( Haven't had a listen yet thogh).

[BBMmk2]

Must get to ty how to upload stuff on here!

[silvestrione]

I once came across a fascinating performance-plus-score of Bach's B minor fugue from the Bk 1 of the 48, in which the motifs ('the cross', etc) thought by some to be detectable in the music, were marked, as they were played. I've tried to find it, to put on here, but have failed. Just wondered if anyone else knows of it?

[teamsaint]

Ready for the first "Our Summer BaL" of the season.

[Pabmusic]

Well, this doesn't have a score - so you needn't watch...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwXdr2lC6fw

[BBMmk2]

Perhaps I should upload my scores here?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I am a big fan of these as well particularly for following complex piano scores. But as with a lot of youtube I am a bit worried about the copyright implications . Most of the 20th century scores and all the performances will be copyright . Do Ferneyhough , Barrett , Hamelin , and the Stravinsky estate get a slice of the advertising money (if there is any ) ? Perhaps they are not worried - though I bet their publishers are ...I tend to rationalise it by looking at the thousands of pounds worth of scores Ive bought over the years - I've paid my dues etc - but who buys scores now?

[Richard Barrett]

Do Ferneyhough , Barrett , Hamelin , and the Stravinsky estate get a slice of the advertising money (if there is any ) ? Perhaps they are not worried - though I bet their publishers are ...I tend to rationalise it by looking at the thousands of pounds worth of scores Ive bought over the years - I've paid my dues etc - but who buys scores now?

Hardly anyone! And as soon as one person uploads a scan of a given score to the internet, it's effectively always going to be freely available to everyone. Besides which, scores of contemporary music are generally too expensive for young people - those who have most interest in studying them - to afford. For this and other reasons I left my publisher in 2011 and decided to make all the notated material freely available myself, so that anyone downloading a score can be sure to be getting the most recent revision. Some of the people who post scores with recordings on Youtube have been in touch to ask my permission (which is always granted), others haven't. My principal interest is in people getting to know the music better and of course where appropriate going out and performing it. Both of these (the former obviously, the latter almost certainly) have been enhanced by these Youtube clips.

[Ein Heldenleben]

That is indeed very enlightened of you . The high cost of contemporary music scores is indeed a drain on the pockets of music students and not just contemporary music - a Britten Opera vocal score is over £70 these days. For a student to build a decent library of 20th century music the cost would certainly be in four figures. Some will no doubt use IMSLP for 19th cent and earlier but these are, for copyright reasons, often old, out of date and of limited functionality.

[ahinton]

I am a big fan of these as well particularly for following complex piano scores. But as with a lot of youtube I am a bit worried about the copyright implications . Most of the 20th century scores and all the performances will be copyright . Do Ferneyhough , Barrett , Hamelin , and the Stravinsky estate get a slice of the advertising money (if there is any ) ? Perhaps they are not worried - though I bet their publishers are ...I tend to rationalise it by looking at the thousands of pounds worth of scores Ive bought over the years - I've paid my dues etc - but who buys scores now?

I doubt that any of them get a cent from their scores and or video recordings being on YouTube and it is undoubtedly the case, at least in my personal experience, that most such uploads are made by those who wouldn't think to ask the artists, record companies, publishers, broadcasters or composers for their permission, the technological facilities having seemingly generated an attitude of divine right to have it all for free especially among younger internet users. This is all very well and one doesn't wish to be stingy but having your work uploaded like this does nothing to help one make a living. I do continue to sell scores in bound paper copy form - Sorabji's and my own - and have done so for many years but, since 2012, I've also offered them as .pdf files which can be done at a fraction of the price of paper copies, is far quicker to transmit and incurs no shipping charges and it is in this format that most requests are made. Those who have copyright interests in scores and performances that are subject to unauthorised uploads to YouTube and other such setups are entitled to apply to have them removed under DCMA rules if so they wish.

[Ein Heldenleben]

A bit of googling reveals the YouTube royalty rate to be 0.60 cents per 1,000 streams - don't buy the villa in Provence just yet ..

[teamsaint]

Talking of availabilty of scores, here is something interesting from the Kronos Quartet.

http://kronosquartet.org/fifty-for-the-future

[ahinton]

A bit of googling reveals the YouTube royalty rate to be 0.60 cents per 1,000 streams - don't buy the villa in Provence just yet ..

Indeed! That effectively means that to achieve a figure equivalent to the average gross annual UK salary before taxes from YouTube royalties one needs at least 6bn streams; I'm sure that I haven't had that many yet...

[teamsaint]

Indeed! That effectively means that to achieve a figure equialent to the average gross annual UK salary before taxes from YouTube royalties one needs at least 6bn streams; I'm sure that I haven't had that many yet...

That really does put it into perspective.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

A bit of googling reveals the YouTube royalty rate to be 0.60 cents per 1,000 streams - don't buy the villa in Provence just yet ..

That merely confirms my view that YouTube is legalised piracy.