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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    #16
    Ooh, you got me going there for a minute... what, I've missed all these...?
    It's not quite as many as it looks....(thank goodness)...


    I recall now buying Vol. 1 with the Honegger 4th, but wasn't too happy with it - better 4ths around & perhaps the same for the Stravinsky too. IIRC I wanted a little more spark & atmosphere, a little less close-set. (Munch at one end of the spectrum, Luisi at the other...) Still, good Honegger 4ths aren't thick on the ground, and this is a nice "virtual concert", very nicely recorded; the label consistently makes the effort to go off-the-beaten - always a good thing!

    The Manz/Mandeal Brahms Concertos & Symphonies reviewed well chez Cowan (Gramophone, late 1990s) as provocatively different (!) but I never got around to them. The Romanian orchestras might well offer a good Brahmsian palette. No-one hear those?
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 19-08-17, 16:01.

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    • PJPJ
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1461

      #17
      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
      Ooh, you got me going there for a minute... what, I've missed all these...?
      It's not quite as many as it looks....(thank goodness)...


      I recall now buying Vol. 1 with the Honegger 4th, but wasn't too happy with it - better 4ths around & perhaps the same for the Stravinsky too. IIRC I wanted a little more spark & atmosphere, a little less close-set. (Munch at one end of the spectrum, Luisi at the other...) Still, good Honegger 4ths aren't thick on the ground, and this is a nice "virtual concert", very nicely recorded; the label consistently makes the effort to go off-the-beaten - always a good thing!

      The Manz/Mandeal Brahms Concertos & Symphonies reviewed well chez Cowan (Gramophone, late 1990s) as provocatively different (!) but I never got around to them. The Romanian orchestras might well offer a good Brahmsian palette. No-one hear those?
      I don't have any real Brahms on Arte Nova, but do have this tribute act - the CPO set may be better recorded and played...... I think these symphonies are really well worth a listen or two.

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      • Jonathan
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        • Mar 2007
        • 945

        #18
        I have a few CDs on this label - Saint-saens complete organ works, Liszt complete organ works (which, IIRC was £15.99 for a 4 disc set in a shop in Woking!), Bruckner 0 (Die Nulte), Gernsheim - Complete symphonies (my favourite recording of these works) and Liszt Transcendental etudes with Alfredo Perl (who I think is an excellent pianist). There are probably more as well!
        Best regards,
        Jonathan

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        • jayne lee wilson
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 10711

          #19
          I listened to the Brahms Piano Concertos with Manz/Mandeal etc. on Qobuz HiFi. I expected something interesting but they're quite stunning actually!

          At just over 43' (!) for the B Flat and 45' for the D Minor, they don't hang about - marvellously swift and incisive, but with a true Romantic orchestral sound, warm and weighty but never excessively heavy. Those Romanian strings have a terrific cutting edge matched by very chiselled piano tone from Manz - who sings out the lines beautifully with winds or cello in the slow movements... there's a nice reverberance around the orchestra, the piano set just slightly ahead of them. (If you know the Enescu white-label issues, you'll have some idea of the orchestral character).
          Slavonic Brahms always seems to dig deeper.

          Downsides? Not many - occasionally the winds are a little covered by the orchestra (but still audible); the 1st movement of No.1 can seem a little too poised and "classical" - but it keeps flowing on, and still has fine, articulate impact in climaxes. But even if this holds fire a shade, the las two movements more than make up for it.
          If you enjoy going off-the-beaten with familiar classics, give these a try - the 2nd Concerto is true hidden treasure here, a performance in a single breath - very "live" in feel (and even quicker than any Toscanini/Horowitzes I know of...).

          My kind of Brahms! (And straight into my Arte Nova Top Ten...)
          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 20-08-17, 17:02.

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11679

            #20
            Good Bruckner 2 by Wakasugi - couldn't abide the Zinman Pastoral .

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