The death of western art music has been greatly exaggerated
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostWhat a load of drivel!
like a Zombie movie he returns again and again
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And i'm loving the image of LÉON KRIER with Boston Stump in the background. He is obviously a genius architect if you take a look at his famous fire stationLast edited by MrGongGong; 25-07-17, 09:37.
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Originally posted by Tarantella View PostThis is interesting![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostNah, it isn't. It's just the same old same old; nothing that hasn't been regurgitated innumerable times over the past thirty years. If all these "blind alleys" were actually blind alleys, how come it's still so necessary for these bods to take potshots at them?
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Oh, an opinion piece: Comment Is Free. Am I reading the right article?
Robert R. Reilly is a senior fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council and has written for the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Reader’s Digest, and National Review, among many other publications. A former director of the Voice of America, he has taught at the National Defense University and served in the White House and the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Reilly is a member of the board of the Middle East Media Research Institute and lives near Washington DC.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostOh, an opinion piece: Comment Is Free. Am I reading the right article?
Robert R. Reilly is a senior fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council and has written for the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Reader’s Digest, and National Review, among many other publications. A former director of the Voice of America, he has taught at the National Defense University and served in the White House and the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Reilly is a member of the board of the Middle East Media Research Institute and lives near Washington DC.
See also http://www.oxfordwesternmusic.com/vi...iv1-001008.xml
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostFrom this I was expecting Scruton - turns out to be a different one.
I didn't make it past half way, but he helps me to understand why I find Pärt, Górecki, and Tavener unlistenable-to.
Snap, Throppers.
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Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View PostHe sounds like he'd get on well with Roger Scruton.Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostFrom this I was expecting Scruton - turns out to be a different one.
I didn't make it past half way, but he helps me to understand why I find Pärt, Górecki, and Tavener unlistenable-to.
Snap, Throppers.
[Damn, Gongers in first ]It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Richard Tarleton
Originally posted by french frank View PostSir R Scruton lingers in the background of the FSI, I presume in the editorial dept, accepting, rejecting, commissioning.
[Damn, Gongers in first ]
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostThanks both. I hit the same dea end with RS's writing and pronouncements as I do with the three composers above. When such an important thinker can commit such grievous category error over foxhunting, I start to think he can't be such a great thinker after all.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostSir R Scruton lingers in the background of the FSI, I presume in the editorial dept, accepting, rejecting, commissioning.
In 1952 or thereabouts, Boulez infamously wrote "Schoenberg is dead"; his assertion was not merely tasteless but of questionable accuracy in the light of the extent to which the sport of Schönberg Shooting retains currency. What is it with these people continuing to take pot shots at Schönberg two-thirds of a century after his death? What do they get out of it?
There seem to me to be things in this piece that I don't imagine Roger Scruton would have written or necessarily even condoned.
The main problem, of course, is the general thrust (if it can be so called) of the article which centres upon the specious myths of Schönberg having effectively destroyed tonality and that it's somehow risen, phœnix-like, from the ashes courtesy of the minimalists / minimal spiritualists (and, by implication, the so-called "Neo-Romantics" and others); it's not even as though the forward-thinking work of Wagner, Liszt, Scriabin and his followers, Varèse, Vermeulen, Ives and others had anything to do with any of this - it was all that dastardly Schönberg!
If tonality ever died, I must have been away from RCM the day they taught about that in history classes. The very fact that the author seems unaware that what Schönberg and many others did was to expand and enhance the expressive capabilities of music alone determined its place in the waste paper basket; the sheer diversity that grew from this to the point at which Ferneyhough, Dutilleux, Rubbra, Messiaen, Arnold, Pettersson, Xenakis, Henze, Stevenson, Tippett, Adams et al would work contemporaneously, yet this fact evidently cuts no ice with the writer who clear preference is for a spurious agenda driven evangelism in this ill-conceived essay.
Sorry; I've already written far too much on this drivel. I'll stop now that the steam seems no longer to be escaping from my ears...
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