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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
    • 7656

    #46
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    Love piano quintets. The door was opened by Shostakovich's in my teens, and more recently kept open by hearing Fauré's two... and then so many other great ones.

    The Schmitt in post #1 is definitely on my 'to explore' list

    Huge soft spot for the Mozart with winds (the Perahia recording with wor Tony on horn a must).
    I haven't checked, but regarding Faure, i wasn't aware that he wrote two Quintets. I thought it was a Quartet and a Quintet

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #47
      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      I haven't checked, but regarding Faure, i wasn't aware that he wrote two Quintets. I thought it was a Quartet and a Quintet
      The approach is warmly expressive and the phrasing generous and intense, says Andrew Clements

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #48
        Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
        I haven't checked, but regarding Faure, i wasn't aware that he wrote two Quintets. I thought it was a Quartet and a Quintet
        ... and two Piano Quartets, too.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ahinton
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          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          #49
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          ... and two Piano Quartets, too.
          Yes, two of each and all fine works!

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #50
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • AmpH
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              • Feb 2012
              • 1318

              #51
              One of those in ER's list above is one I often return to - the Amy Beach piano quintet , especially played by Martin Roscoe and the Endellion Quartet on a favourite ASV disc, which includes fine performances of two works by Rebecca Clarke :-

              Rebecca Clarke & Amy Beach: Chamber Works. ASV: CDDCA932. Buy Presto CD online. Martin Roscoe (piano), Andrew Watkinson (violin), David Waterman (cello), Garfield Jackson (viola), Endellion String Quartet

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26523

                #52
                Originally posted by AmpH View Post
                One of those in ER's list above is one I often return to - the Amy Beach piano quintet , especially played by Martin Roscoe and the Endellion Quartet on a favourite ASV disc, which includes fine performances of two works by Rebecca Clarke :-

                http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/ASV/CDDCA932
                A lovely disc, that - favourite of mine too
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  Oh yes, I forgot about Dillon. I'm sure there are others which also didn't spring immediately to mind. One issue of course is that it's expensive for promoters to book a piano soloist AND a string quartet for the same evening.

                  As for piano concertos, I do think that's a quite different situation though I would have to have a good long hard think about why I would make that claim. And as for catching on widely, you'd have to say not that widely, and an inordinate proportion of what there is seems to be French for some strange reason.
                  Apologies, Richard - our posts appeared "simultaneously" so I didn't see your reply in my subsequent excitement about the Boccherinis (and I don't often get the opportunity to make that claim). My own thoughts on the limitations of my suggested parallel with Concertos led me to consider the nature of the orchestra in the role of a Concerto, and possible differences between "public" and "domestic" Music-making. The orchestra in a Concerto perhaps plays a role closer to that of a piano "accompaniment" to a lieder - which might be why there are "concert arias" for voice and orchestra by Mozart, and lieder for voice and piano by him - but not anything for voice and String Quartet by any composer (??? - stands aside to let dozens of examples be cited in other Posts) until the late 19th Century. Indeed - the very time when so many of the French/Belgian examples that you point out mentioned so far were also written: that would make for a readable Degree thesis - "The Piano Quintet in the World of Proust".
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Apologies, Richard - our posts appeared "simultaneously" so I didn't see your reply in my subsequent excitement about the Boccherinis (and I don't often get the opportunity to make that claim). My own thoughts on the limitations of my suggested parallel with Concertos led me to consider the nature of the orchestra in the role of a Concerto, and possible differences between "public" and "domestic" Music-making. The orchestra in a Concerto perhaps plays a role closer to that of a piano "accompaniment" to a lieder - which might be why there are "concert arias" for voice and orchestra by Mozart, and lieder for voice and piano by him - but not anything for voice and String Quartet by any composer (??? - stands aside to let dozens of examples be cited in other Posts) until the late 19th Century. Indeed - the very time when so many of the French/Belgian examples that you point out mentioned so far were also written: that would make for a readable Degree thesis - "The Piano Quintet in the World of Proust".
                    À la recherche des Quintettes perdus, peut-être?

                    Go on, then; make a start on this! Now!

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                    • gurnemanz
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7382

                      #55
                      Shosty and Franck - recommended disc here

                      Rimsky: most enjoyable Quintet for piano, flute, clarinet, horn & bassoon

                      Romantic P Quintets by various Kleinmeister and Schubert.

                      Glenn Gould spoke to Rubinstein of the Rubinstein-Guarneri recording of the Brahms Quintet as "the greatest chamber music performance with piano that I've heard in my life. I'm drunk on it. My notion of what Brahms represents has been changed by your recording."

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        À la recherche des Quintettes perdus, peut-être?
                        Go on, then; make a start on this! Now!
                        Oh, crumbs - the number of "projects barely started" in my life, I'm turning into a Casaubon!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #57
                          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                          Romantic P Quintets by various Kleinmeister and Schubert.
                          Astonishing! All these were written for the "Trout Ensemble"?! I had no idea!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Pianorak
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3127

                            #58
                            Like buses?

                            R3 today 13:00

                            Vaughan Williams: St Denio (Scherzo) from Welsh Hymn Tunes
                            Bruch: String Quintet in E flat major
                            Vaughan Williams: Piano Quintet in C minor (1903)
                            Nash Ensemble
                            My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                            • verismissimo
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2957

                              #59
                              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post

                              Romantic P Quintets by various Kleinmeister and Schubert.
                              I invested in this when the OAE Soloists were coming to play the Schubert and one of the Onslows for my birthday in the parish church in our village.

                              The concert was wonderful, but I've never felt inclined to revisit the Onslow!

                              There are two Hummel quintets included in the set. Is he so klein?

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37614

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                                Like buses?

                                R3 today 13:00

                                Vaughan Williams: St Denio (Scherzo) from Welsh Hymn Tunes
                                Bruch: String Quintet in E flat major
                                Vaughan Williams: Piano Quintet in C minor (1903)
                                Nash Ensemble
                                Deary me - fancy me missing this early piece of Vaughan Williams, from a crucial period in his output of huge interest to me! Shall have to give that a listen, anon!

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