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  • Sir Velo
    Full Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 3306

    #46
    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    And which of course they themselves had no say in. In view of what Sir Velo and Stanfordian have said I think there's a case for instituting a maximum voting age. Deciding what is "idealistic" and what "sustainable" should perhaps not be left to the most jaded sectors of society!
    Now who's being silly?

    Stan and I are just a tad more realistic than some on this forum about expecting the new younger generation to be our saviours.

    I note that you haven't actually disputed my point about how voting habits change with age...

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    • Richard Barrett
      Guest
      • Jan 2016
      • 6259

      #47
      Originally posted by jean View Post
      There's a vein of philistinism on the Left that should give us all pause
      I would say it's fairly insignificant compared with the "vein" of philistinism on the Right. If you want to worry about some kind of resurgence of Militant in Liverpool that's up to you, but surely there are far more important things going on.

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      • Richard Barrett
        Guest
        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #48
        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
        I note that you haven't actually disputed my point about how voting habits change with age...
        It is after all a matter of statistics. But again you claim to know what's "realistic", along with knowing what's "idealistic", "sustainable" etc. etc. etc. What makes you such an authority?

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25302

          #49
          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
          Now who's being silly?

          Stan and I are just a tad more realistic than some on this forum about expecting the new younger generation to be our saviours.

          I note that you haven't actually disputed my point about how voting habits change with age...
          And you haven't discussed the fact that home ownership , the driver for change in voting behaviour apparently, is in high speed decline among the young.

          The seeds of a generational war have been sown. Frankly, kids who have massive student debt, jobs with modest pay, and little prospect of a secure home are , or are going to , stick one finger up to those who they perceive to have brought this to pass.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • Richard Barrett
            Guest
            • Jan 2016
            • 6259

            #50
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
            As jean suggests (and she does live in Liverpool, after all, where Derek Hatton ruled the roost at one point), there may well still be a 'tendency'.
            Yes I remember all that. "There may well." So what? What's going to happen - are they going to brainwash half a million Labour party members? It isn't the 1980s any more.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30823

              #51
              Nil illegitimi carborundum.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #52
                Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                Stan and I are just a tad more realistic than some on this forum about expecting the new younger generation to be our saviours.
                "Our saviours"?! I think they'll have their work cut out saving the country from the mess their elders have made of it. I shall be content if they restrict themselves to not voting in compulsory euthanasia in twenty years' time
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #53
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  "Our saviours"?! I think they'll have their work cut out saving the country from the mess their elders have made of it. I shall be content if they restrict themselves to not voting in compulsory euthanasia in twenty years' time
                  Given the views of many I would think that euthanasia is very much on the agenda
                  BUT

                  Might be good for the founders of the great Welfare State

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 38197

                    #54
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Given the views of many I would think that euthanasia is very much on the agenda
                    BUT

                    Might be good for the founders of the great Welfare State

                    http://www.deadgoodguides.com
                    If that's the John Fox who at one time ran the Welfare State travelling theatre group, I'm glad to see he's still around. He must be knocking on. In the early 70s he provided work for a musician I knew, sadly no more with us.

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      If that's the John Fox who at one time ran the Welfare State travelling theatre group, I'm glad to see he's still around. He must be knocking on. In the early 70s he provided work for a musician I knew, sadly no more with us.
                      It is the same John indeed
                      Always was inspirational and still is

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 11390

                        #56
                        News might still take a little while to reach the provinces; The Press here in York posted this about four hours ago:



                        York Theatre Royal, Pilot Theatre, York Museums Trust and the National Centre for Early Music have all been awarded National Portfolio Organisation status between 2018 and 2022.

                        I'm not sure what this status means, but assume that it is good news for these organisations.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 38197

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          News might still take a little while to reach the provinces; The Press here in York posted this about four hours ago:



                          York Theatre Royal, Pilot Theatre, York Museums Trust and the National Centre for Early Music have all been awarded National Portfolio Organisation status between 2018 and 2022.

                          I'm not sure what this status means, but assume that it is good news for these organisations.
                          National Portfolio has connotations of quietly filed away and forgotten...

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 11390

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            National Portfolio has connotations of quietly filed away and forgotten...
                            Ah: it simply means that they are in ACE's portfolio (so let's hope not filed away and forgotten about, at least for the guaranteed period of funding!).
                            The current portfolio of 828 organisations runs until 31 March 2023. Explore the following pages to get all the data, useful resources and background information for our current National Portfolio.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30823

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              National Portfolio has connotations of quietly filed away and forgotten...
                              Doesn't it mean they're guaranteed funding?
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 38197

                                #60
                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Doesn't it mean they're guaranteed funding?
                                Pulcinella's corrected me on the organisation title-based assumptions I was making.

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