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  • Alison
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    Webern's Op. 1 'Passacaglia'. I played this as a teenager and, in my naivety, expected to hate it but ended up loving it.
    And quite regular outings at the Proms.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20576

      #17
      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
      Brahms 1st Piano Sonata
      I do rather like this one, but it's typical of Brahms in having far too many notes for the pianist to manage, while still not sounding particularly difficult.

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      • pastoralguy
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7818

        #18
        Originally posted by Alison View Post
        And quite regular outings at the Proms.
        I might dig out my cd of Herbie and his band playing it.

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          I do rather like this one, but it's typical of Brahms in having far too many notes for the pianist to manage, while still not sounding particularly difficult.
          Julius Katchen plays it wonderfully IMV.

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
            Webern's Op. 1 'Passacaglia'. I played this as a teenager and, in my naivety, expected to hate it but ended up loving it.
            Oh yes, this! First heard it many years ago (almost certainly a BBCSO/Boulez broadcast performance circa 1974) and I had a similar experience. Strangely, though, I've not heard it live in concert as far as I can remember.

            Johann Strauss's opus 1 is a waltz called Sinngedichte and while it's not the greatest one from his pen it certainly shows the talent he had for the other 478 that followed.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #21
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Johann Strauss's opus 1 is a waltz called Sinngedichte and while it's not the greatest one from his pen it certainly shows the talent he had for the other[s] that followed.
              But - with the exceptions of Handel (and other Baroque composers) and Alpie's nomination of Erlkonig - isn't this (and shouldn't it be) the case in all composers' Op1s?
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                But - with the exceptions of Handel (and other Baroque composers) and Alpie's nomination of Erlkonig - isn't this (and shouldn't it be) the case in all composers' Op1s?
                Indeed so but I wonder if there are any composers for whom their opus 1 turned to be the best they ever did. Just playing Sinngedichte now and it's pretty good, definitely giving notice of a major talent!

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                • Richard Barrett
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                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  #23
                  Stockhausen, Nr.1 Kontra-Punkte (to give it its full title - although it's preceded by a few other early pieces, some of which weren't performed until the 1970s, that's its designated number), which is something of a watershed in chamber ensemble composition I think.

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                  • gurnemanz
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7417

                    #24
                    Fauré: Le papillon et la fleur Op 1 No 1 (Nathalie Stutzmann)

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                    • Pianorak
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3128

                      #25
                      I think the Prokofiev piano sonata no. 1, Op 1 and the 24 Caprices by Paganini Op. 1 deserve a mention.
                      My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                      • BBMmk2
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #26
                        Has to be Webern's.
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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                          I think the Prokofiev piano sonata no. 1, Op 1 and the 24 Caprices by Paganini Op. 1 deserve a mention.


                          I see Boulez's earliest pieces were for solo piano. Would like to hear the Nocturne (1944-45)

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            I see Boulez's earliest pieces were for solo piano.
                            But do student works / juvenilia count as "Opus 1"s? Doesn't the Opus designation suggest that a work was one that the composer deemed suitable for publication?
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                            • rauschwerk
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              But do student works / juvenilia count as "Opus 1"s? Doesn't the Opus designation suggest that a work was one that the composer deemed suitable for publication?
                              Yes, or a work which it would be worth a publisher's while to commit to print (Haydn wrote a good few 'non-commercial' symphonies before his Op. 1 quartets).

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                              • Hornspieler
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                                • Sep 2012
                                • 1847

                                #30
                                Opus 1.

                                For me, it has to be that famous recording by the Glenn Miller Orchestra.

                                (Probably arranged by the band's pianist Mel Powell)

                                HS

                                (Sorry, back to the topic)

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