What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? III

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  • Petrushka
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12137

    Mahler: Symphony No 3
    Norma Proctor (contralto)
    William Lang (flugelhorn), Dennis Wick (trombone)
    Wandsworth School Boys' Choir
    Ambrosian Singers
    London Symphony Orchestra
    Jascha Horenstein

    Terrific performance, with perhaps the best finale on disc. This comfortably sees off the new Fischer disc I played last weekend.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      A lot of Austro-German in the immediate above. I am not at all anti German but this - which is supposed to be at the hub of all classical music - is the most difficult nut to crack for me. The next most difficult are Scandinavla and Eastern Europe but they are nowhere near as difficult. I'm Anglo-Franco-Spanish-Italian in classical music although I have leanings towards Russia as well. Would very much welcome any suggestions but especially early 20th Century that doesn't have emphasis on bombast but rather subtlety. Bits of Mahler - yes - the songs not the symphonies, never "found" R Strauss, I like Humperdinck, have hovered over Schmidt, Wolf is a consideration. Mainly, I don't get it. Piano would be a good start.

      Eastern Europe (some central if you like) with Russia is complicated. The names are not easy for we mere mortals and I reckon that beyond a Top 30 or 40 most people would be stuggling. I have found joy in discovering a few who caught my interest - Kalinnikov, Eller, Tubin, Jezek, Stolcer-Slavesnki, A Panufnik, Liadov, Kaprilova and especially the Tcherepnins who are outstanding. There are bits on the "edges". I'd see Gliere as fairly mainstream but perhaps he isn't to some. There is to my mind also a world music dimension there. One gets caught in the moment. Enthuses, buys it, then doubts. It would be so easy to go for a Suk (who I like very much) or a Kodaly and Part or Gorecki off CFM but there was an odd race to purchase this one as "really not my thing but there is something here for me". I will stick with it as a champion of the less than obvious. Can I see what I saw immediately? Not sure - but no regrets. I think I still believe in him/it and this was no fly-by-night. He wrote many symphonies as well. Obviously, less than 0.1 per cent of the west has heard of him:

      Miloslav Kabeláč - Mystery Of Time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxcD0mU9jo
      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 29-09-17, 23:18.

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      • EdgeleyRob
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
        A lot of Austro-German in the immediate above. I am not at all anti German but this - which is supposed to be at the hub of all classical music - is the most difficult nut to crack for me. The next most difficult are Scandinavla and Eastern Europe but they are nowhere as difficult. I'm very Anglo-Franco-Spanish-Italian in classical music although I have leanings towards Russia as well. Would very much welcome any suggestions but especially early 20th Century that doesn't have emphasis on bombast but rather subtlety. Bits of Mahler - yes - the songs not the symphonies, never "found" R Strauss, I like Humperdinck, have hovered over Schmidt, Wolf is a consideration. Mainly, I don't get it. Piano would be a good start.
        Anglo?most definitely.
        French,Spanish.Italian?So so.
        Hmmm,Scandinavian?
        Some is ok,Alfven,Berwald...it's the big hitters I don't get,Nielsen and Sibelius.
        Austro-German ? Got to be chamber and piano music mainly,rather than Symphonies and Concertos.
        I don't do Lieder though but English songs I can't get enough of.
        Bruckner not really,Mahler I'm falling in love with again after a bit of a falling out (1st Symphony,Chicago,Giulini today).
        Strauss ?nah.
        Russia? Oh yes,Myaskovsky,Weinberg,DSCH.
        Piano Lat? Try Medtner,Myaskovsky,Weinberg,Kabalevsky Sonatas

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        • DracoM
          Host
          • Mar 2007
          • 12908

          The choir of Westminster Cathedral sing Morten Lauridsen's stunningly beautiful setting of O Magnum Mysterium during Midnight Mass 2009. O magnum mysteriumet...

          Yes, I know it's Lauridsen, but after an exhausting day, balm to the hurt mind.
          The Drome choir live on utube.




          ......and oh yes, upthread to Mahler 8th / Solti.
          But that's for tomorrow!

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          • Lat-Literal
            Guest
            • Aug 2015
            • 6983

            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
            Anglo?most definitely.
            French,Spanish.Italian?So so.
            Hmmm,Scandinavian?
            Some is ok,Alfven,Berwald...it's the big hitters I don't get,Nielsen and Sibelius.
            Austro-German ? Got to be chamber and piano music mainly,rather than Symphonies and Concertos.
            I don't do Lieder though but English songs I can't get enough of.
            Bruckner not really,Mahler I'm falling in love with again after a bit of a falling out (1st Symphony,Chicago,Giulini today).
            Strauss ?nah.
            Russia? Oh yes,Myaskovsky,Weinberg,DSCH.
            Piano Lat? Try Medtner,Myaskovsky,Weinberg,Kabalevsky Sonatas
            Thank you ever so much for your considered reply, Rob.

            I know you love the English/British as do I but you are far more knowledgeable. I love the French and find the Latin/Spanish so interesting. Maybe not love in every case but I like it because when I started I made it my especial learning/educational thing. I'm still on that line - do love Villa Lobos etc - on instinct. I can discover wonderful things as a student and also teach if people want to be receptive. I'd dip into Sibelius and Nielsen - they are here in the room as I type - and there is, yes, Alfven - and Melartin - but I also branch out to Rautavaara (I like the experimentalism) and Leifs (so atmospheric that one can overlook the bombast). Gade is an interesting one. That is french frank to me. She may feel slightly put out - but I bought that and it isn't quite my era - because of my liking and respect for her whatever our occasional differences. She may not be Gade to her but she is Gade to me and consequently I like it. I do this with music and people. Bob Lind is here because of JC and partly as JC. I know what I like. It no longer matters as much how I come across.

            (at least one of the two eastern composers beginning with a "V "I posted were also FF and possibly the Respighi but I don't expect people to get it and my memory can be wayward)
            Last edited by Lat-Literal; 29-09-17, 23:43.

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            • EdgeleyRob
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              Thanks Lat,I wouldn't say I'm knowledgeable about British music,just potty about it.

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              • Lat-Literal
                Guest
                • Aug 2015
                • 6983

                There is an album out there called "The Tcherepnin Family" which I haven't got because I have CDs by the main two individually. I firmly believe that each is criminally underrated and initially I didn't even understand that there was more than one of them. Some of their pieces are beautiful. This is not necessarily that but it fits me well because it is performed by the Dad of John Sebastian of the Loving Spoonful. Did I bring this family to the forum first? It would be lovely to think so. I am certainly their first pro-active promoter, such as it is. We are given some and we bring some. Mostly people don't want it but I learn and teach at the same time. I am not sure I am capable of dividing the two - and it is just how I am:

                As good as Thielemans and Adler:

                Alexander Tcherepnin - Concerto for Harmonica and Orchestra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcympzq4xKA

                (I get critical because I ultra romanticise everything and everyone in music and that mainly determines the wavelength)
                Last edited by Lat-Literal; 30-09-17, 00:11.

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                • Lat-Literal
                  Guest
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6983

                  What with post Hefner - did you spot the classical music in all of that supposed advanced sophistication because I didn't - I should try for the best four or five American symphonies of the sixties. This won't be easy. One is the outstanding moment - Harris without any doubt - and I have posted it twice before. Two others immediately spring to mind as probables:

                  Leonard Bernstein - Symphony No 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX1exz7eORo
                  Alan Hovhaness - Symphony No 19 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXetQjOgZVA
                  Roy Harris - Symphony No 11 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dr_jg-hl0g
                  Henry Cowell - Symphony No 16 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L9QgSNej4w
                  George Rochberg - Symphony No 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfCyRi6chg
                  Last edited by Lat-Literal; 30-09-17, 02:31.

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                  • Lat-Literal
                    Guest
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6983

                    But, of course, and notwithstanding the fabulous Lou Harrison, who runs it very, very, close - he is surely the greatest post 1960s American composer by several thousand miles:

                    The best post 1960s American symphony, especially because it is retrograde and sums up the 20th Century's parts, is from 1992:

                    Samuel Jones - Symphony No 3 - "The Palo Duro Canyon" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiGNcHLEgKc

                    And while one could look at Daugherty, Corigliano, Zwilich and a whole host of others beyond those two (eg AH did some great stuff in the '70s), the next spot, sorry, goes to Glass:

                    Philip Glass - Symphony No 4 (Bournemouth SO/Ms Alsop) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hepf31JoBNo

                    Here's a wonderful early moment from American music history.......as slow as slow can be.

                    A little light music perhaps but it's from the best classical music decade in my opinion if not necessarily in the US generally which makes it of especial interest to me:

                    John Alden Carpenter - Adventures in a Perambulator - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRYTfQkHa0

                    (And I'm going to buy it now)
                    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 30-09-17, 03:53.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      British Violin Concertos

                      Samuel Coleridge-Taylor Violin Concerto in G minor, Op.80
                      Delius Suite for violin & orchestra(1888-91)
                      Haydn Wood Violin concerto in A minor(1888)
                      Tasmin Little (violin), BBC PO, Sir Andrew Davis.

                      Frederick Delius
                      The Violin Sonatas
                      Tasmin Little(violin), Piers Lane(piano).
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Beethoven Op. 132 (Quatuor Mosaïques). What a difference from the only other (sort of) HIPP recording of the work I have, that by four members of the Collegium Aureum (1973). Let's hope the Quatuor Mosaïques goes on to record the 'middle quartets'.

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                        • Stanfordian
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9286

                          Puccini
                          La Bohème, opera in four acts
                          Irina Lungu – Mimì
                          Giorgio Berrugi – Rodolfo
                          Kelebogile Besong – Musetta
                          Mas Federico Longhi – Schaunard
                          Banjamin Cho – Marcello
                          Gabriele Sagona – Colline
                          Mattio Peirone – Benoît/Alcindoro
                          Cullen Gandy – Parpignol
                          Children’s Chorus Teatro Regio & Conservatorio ‘G Verdi’ Torino
                          Orchestra e Coro del Teatro Regio/Gianandrea Noseda
                          Chorus master – Claudio Fenoglio
                          Stage Director – Àlex Ollé
                          Set Designer –Alfonso Flores
                          Costume Design – Lluc Castells
                          Lighting Designer – Urs Schonebaum
                          Video Direction – Tiziano Mancini
                          Recorded 2016 Teatro Regio Torino
                          C Major Blu-ray

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                          • visualnickmos
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3608

                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            British Violin Concertos

                            Samuel Coleridge-Taylor Violin Concerto in G minor, Op.80
                            Delius Suite for violin & orchestra(1888-91)
                            Haydn Wood Violin concerto in A minor(1888)
                            Tasmin Little (violin), BBC PO, Sir Andrew Davis.

                            Frederick Delius

                            The Violin Sonatas
                            Tasmin Little(violin), Piers Lane(piano).
                            What a delightful sounding concert. Very enjoyable, I'm certain.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Carmina Burana. Glorious stuff. I really should lift my spirits by listening to this more often.

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12659

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Carmina Burana. Glorious stuff. I really should lift my spirits by listening to this more often.
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                                ... but was it this -


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                                or perhaps -



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