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  • verismissimo
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
    Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde
    Janet Baker (Alto)/Waldemar Kmentt/Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra/Rafael Kubelik (recorded live 27.02.1970)
    As a pendant to his symphony cycle, Kubelik's DLvdE is just as good as one would have expected from those recordings. Janet Baker is at her very considerable best, the orchestra plays beautifully, the recording (Herkulessaal) is excellent and Kubelik adopts a - I was tempted to say "ton neutre" - clear-eyed, unsentimental approach (like Abbado in Berlin in 2011). Listening to this rather wonderful performance serves as a welcome antidote to the rather silly point-scoring going on elsewhere in this forum.
    Also recorded live in 1970, a wonderful (but little noticed) Das Lied from Janet Baker, Richard Lewis, Cleveland / Szell.

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    • Stanfordian
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      • Dec 2010
      • 9253

      Frederica von Stade - ‘French Opera Arias’
      Arias by Berlioz, Massenet, Thomas, Meyerbeer, Gounod, Offenbach

      Frederica Von Stade (mezzo soprano)
      London Philharmonic Orchestra / John Pritchard
      Recorded 1976 Henry Wood Hall, London
      Sony

      French Wind Quintets - Ibert, Ravel, Jolivet, Milhaud, Taffanel,
      20th Century Wind Quintets - Ligeti, Zemlinsky, Barber, Sandor Veress, Hindemith
      Les Vents Français,
      featuring Emmanuel Pahud (flute)
      Recorded 2011 Bavaria Musikstudios, Munich
      Warner Classics (2 CDs)

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7362

        Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
        Also recorded live in 1970, a wonderful (but little noticed) Das Lied from Janet Baker, Richard Lewis, Cleveland / Szell.
        I was intrigued, not realizing that Szell had recorded Das Lied, but it isn't listed by Arkiv Music. I'll see if Presto has it as a download later today. Otoh, there are 10 versions listed by Arkiv with Bruno Walter. I will have to see how many of them are in the big Bruno Walter box in my upstairs den

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          Ralph Vaughan Williams
          The Symphonies
          CD 1

          Symphony No.1 “The Sea Symphony”
          (Amanda Roicroft (soprano)
          Thomas Hampson (baritone)
          BBC Symphony Chorus & Orchestra
          Sir Andrew Davis).
          CD 2
          Symphony No.2 “A London Symphony”
          Symphony No.8 in D minor
          CD 3
          Symphony No.4 in F minor
          Symphony Mo.5 in D major
          BBC Symphony Orchestra
          Sir Andrew Davis
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12013

            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
            Also recorded live in 1970, a wonderful (but little noticed) Das Lied from Janet Baker, Richard Lewis, Cleveland / Szell.
            I remember listening to that on Radio 3 circa 1987. What label is that on? Or is it the one on youTube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VRYgKlja4c

            I have another Szell recording of Das Lied with Maureen Forrester and Richard Lewis in a live performance with the Cleveland Orchestra in Berlin on April 21 1967. It's on the Living Stage label, LS1053.
            Last edited by Petrushka; 26-01-21, 13:09.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Cockney Sparrow
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              • Jan 2014
              • 2246

              Hi Petrushka – there’s a better sounding rendition on You Tube:
              Gustav Mahler. Das Lied von der ErdeJanet Baker, mezzo-soprano; Richard Lewis, tenor; Cleveland Orchestra; George Szell, conductorRecorded live 5 & 7 Februar...

              Janet Baker, mezzo-soprano; Richard Lewis, tenor; Cleveland Orchestra; George Szell, conductor Recorded live 5 & 7 February 1970 in Severance Hall, Cleveland

              Interesting listening – I’m 25 minutes in, and Janet Baker seems in fine form. I’m fond of Richard Lewis - a fine Mozartian et al. I’m not sure how the heroic moments will pan out with him.

              The sound is better than off air tape, but still boxy. Its on a 75th Anniversary Set of CDs issued by the Cleveland O, but I can’t find it anywhere on streaming (not on Naxos ML – Cleveland’s Label has 2 recordings total!) and I’m not sure I’ll want to track down/pay for the set just for this recording……..

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              • MickyD
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 4679

                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                Good luck with that! You actually have ground dry enough?

                35 is a wonderful piece, hidden treasure..... 45 playing now, again.... interesting how they hold back the ferocity in (i) to some extent, and as usual repeat the second half....but then, turn it on in the finale to play up the contrasts........a truly fresh, considered account.
                Slow movement right now.... God, this is heavenly playing.....again, some of the greatest Haydn recordings of our time.

                Point taken about the covers to 2032, but they do indeed all have themes, and the artistic concept is based on photographic essays, and tangential musical essays around the concept. I guess the idea was simply that one would collect them (soft or hard) and find out for oneself. The kind of mystery that encourages creative thought. They are luxurious physical disc products...but the extensive booklets do accompany the Qobuz streams at least.
                (So long as you take the trouble to read them...)

                No I didn't buy them in that physical form, but slightly regret that. Expensive to catch up now...
                Treasure indeed, but for this listener, certainly not 'hidden' - the early and mid period symphonies of Haydn have always been far more enjoyable for me than the later, more well-known ones. I regard them as old friends who constantly delight as they reappear in new guises throughout the years - from the Dorati recordings through to Solomons, Hogwood, Pinnock, Weil, Bruggen, Goodman and now this latest superb cycle.

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                • Richard Barrett
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                  Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde

                  Janet Baker (Alto)/Waldemar Kmentt/Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra/Rafael Kubelik (recorded live 27.02.1970)
                  Just finished listening here. I agree that it's on a level with his symphony recordings and I think it's a great shame it wasn't recorded for DG at that time - I've always liked the way they recorded that orchestra, although the radio engineers on the Lied did some fine work to be sure. I'm slightly ashamed to say I first put on this recording while doing some admin work, just to get a rough idea of it, but I then had to down tools near the beginning of the "Abschied" and give it my full attention. Well... music doesn't get more moving than this, as far as I'm concerned. Now back to the start.

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    Treasure indeed, but for this listener, certainly not 'hidden' - the early and mid period symphonies of Haydn have always been far more enjoyable for me than the later, more well-known ones. I regard them as old friends who constantly delight as they reappear in new guises throughout the years - from the Dorati recordings through to Solomons, Hogwood, Pinnock, Weil, Bruggen, Goodman and now this latest superb cycle.
                    I'd add to your fine list, MickyD: Fey, Adam Fischer, some Rattle. But not Tafelmusik/Weil, which sounded to me like a knitting machine.

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                    • Joseph K
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 7765

                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      but I then had to down tools near the beginning of the "Abschied" and give it my full attention. Well... music doesn't get more moving than this, as far as I'm concerned.
                      Agreed. My copy is conducted by Otto Klemperer.
                      Last edited by Joseph K; 26-01-21, 16:48.

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                      • DracoM
                        Host
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 12829

                        Anyone tell me about 'kantele' music?

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                          Treasure indeed, but for this listener, certainly not 'hidden' - the early and mid period symphonies of Haydn have always been far more enjoyable for me than the later, more well-known ones. I regard them as old friends who constantly delight as they reappear in new guises throughout the years - from the Dorati recordings through to Solomons, Hogwood, Pinnock, Weil, Bruggen, Goodman and now this latest superb cycle.
                          Absolutely. My first encounter with 35 was the OAE/Bruggen, the Philips Sturm und Drang Box (with the head-in-hands cover art) in 1999. I bought it after the HiFiNews Review (possibly Anthony Hodgson), when their classical coverage was far more extensive.....
                          A wonderful, revelatory anthology since gathered into much bigger collections, and yes - a world-changing discovery for me....still recall the impact of hearing 26, (The Lamentation) for the first time to this day....

                          I played nothing else for weeks. The next time that happened was with that DG Original Masters Collection of Scherchen's 1950s Haydn...(the 49 in there is remarkable, those baleful horns in the minuet!..)

                          Has there been a more important composer to me in my listening life, than Haydn? Probably not.
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 26-01-21, 17:58.

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                          • MickyD
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4679

                            I think I've come to the same conclusion as you, Jayne. For me, no other composer can touch so many emotions as he does; the overriding one is that of happiness, making you feel so glad to be alive.

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22004

                              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                              Absolutely. My first encounter with 35 was the OAE/Bruggen, the Philips Sturm und Drang Box (with the head-in-hands cover art) in 1999. I bought it after the HiFiNews Review (possibly Anthony Hodgson), when their classical coverage was far more extensive.....
                              A wonderful, revelatory anthology since gathered into much bigger collections, and yes - a world-changing discovery for me....still recall the impact of hearing 26, (The Lamentation) for the first time to this day....

                              I played nothing else for weeks. The next time that happened was with that DG Original Masters Collection of Scherchen's 1950s Haydn...(the 49 in there is remarkable, those baleful horns in the minuet!..)

                              Has there been a more important composer to me in my listening life, than Haydn? Probably not.
                              what, not even AB, jane

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                              • Richard Barrett
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                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                                For me, no other composer can touch so many emotions as he does; the overriding one is that of happiness, making you feel so glad to be alive.
                                As Samuel Beckett is reputed to have said, "I wouldn't go that far."

                                I'm still reeling somewhat from listening twice to Das Lied von der Erde today, but before that I was listening to that same Haydn album yet again. No. 45 is a highly complex work, in emotional terms, isn't it? I'm not sure I buy the traditional story about the last movement, it sounds to me rather more like an extension of the inscrutable second movement. I associate Haydn with a magnifying mirror-like quality: you hear in it whatever you're feeling at the time, but more so.

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