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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    I think it's the "K.247" that's the cause of any puzzlement - a BBC typo for "BV247", mesuspects.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • pastoralguy
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7669

      Not a charity shop purchase today but...

      Elgar. Dream of Gerontius.

      Catherine Wyn-Rogers, Andrew Staples and Thomas Hampton.

      Staatsopernchor Berlin.

      RIAS Kammerchor.

      Staatskapelle Dresden Berlin.

      Daniel Barenboim.

      I've been looking forward to this since it was announced and it's great to see Elgar's creation being presented to the Berlin audience in this way. The orchestral playing is absolutely superb and reveals lots of details I've note heard before. Barenboim doesn't hang around and seems determined not to let the work become a dirge. (As, occasionally, I've heard it done). The only interpretive oddity is during the first part of the 'Demon's Chorus' where Barenboim slams the breaks on, reverts to a tempo, and then slams the anchors on again. Most odd. (There's nothing in the score to suggest this).

      Imvho, both male singers are terrific although I do find Wyn-Rogers a little bit 'wobbly' although not as pronounced as Janet Baker in the Rattle recording. The choir and semi-chorus are excellent.

      Well worth hearing although I'd value others opinions.

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      • Pianoman
        Full Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 525

        Interesting that a friend has just bought this and has emailed me with the heading 'Doom of Gerontius'....I know he's picky, but absolutely hates it and has already offered it to me (cheap)...he does go into detail, but doesn't basically like any of the soloists, or particularly Barenboim's conducting, which is full of wilful point making (apparently). These of course aren't my views as yet, but I have to say the extracts I heard didn't make me want to ditch my Barbirolli or Handley, much as I like Daniel's Elgar Symphonies.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by Pianoman View Post
          Interesting that a friend has just bought this and has emailed me with the heading 'Doom of Gerontius'....I know he's picky, but absolutely hates it and has already offered it to me (cheap)...he does go into detail, but doesn't basically like any of the soloists, or particularly Barenboim's conducting, which is full of wilful point making (apparently). These of course aren't my views as yet, but I have to say the extracts I heard didn't make me want to ditch my Barbirolli or Handley, much as I like Daniel's Elgar Symphonies.
          I'm waiting for Mr GG's review before committing myself to purchasing this one.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by Pianoman View Post
            Interesting that a friend has just bought this and has emailed me with the heading 'Doom of Gerontius'....I know he's picky, but absolutely hates it and has already offered it to me (cheap)...he does go into detail, but doesn't basically like any of the soloists, or particularly Barenboim's conducting, which is full of wilful point making (apparently). These of course aren't my views as yet, but I have to say the extracts I heard didn't make me want to ditch my Barbirolli or Handley, much as I like Daniel's Elgar Symphonies.
            I have heard similar comments. I'd also listened to the extended extracts on the Europadisc site, and had already had very grave reservations about the Mezzo and Bass soloists. I
            think I'll borrow the set from a friend of mine who wasn't that keen, either, before he passes it on - but I doubt I'll be buying it myself. (DB's Elgar Symphonies were a different matter - the First is fine, and whilst I'm less enthusiastic about some of the v e r y s l o w tempi in the first Movement of the Second, it still had much that I found very rewarding.)
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • HighlandDougie
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3038

              Roussel: Bacchus et Ariane, Op.43; Le Festin de l'araignée, Op.17 (Fragments symphoniques); Sinfonietta, Op.52/Pierné: Concertstück for harp and orchestra, Op.39

              Annie Challan (harp)/Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire/André Cluytens

              CD61 from the André Cluytens box. As stellarly remastered as the other CDs in this box of delights. The Paris CO recordings are like listening to an orchestral world we have lost. Alain M's comments about Karel Ančerl's Czech PO Janáček recordings (in the BaL thread on the Sinfonietta) have had me think about 'idiomatic' orchestral timbres. I'm probably being very unfair but I recall that, when the Orchestre de Paris was established in 1967 out of the ashes of the PCO, one of André Malraux's aims was to create an orchestra of the stature of the Berlin or Vienna PO and, in so doing, particularly when HvK was brought in to succeed Charles Munch, to purge the new orchestra of the distinctive 'Frenchness' of the sound of its predecessor. Whatever, I love these performances - and regret that, unless François-Xavier Roth does the honours with Les Siècles, I'm unlikely ever to hear this music played like this live. To me, they are as French as Juliette Gréco and the untipped Gauloises I used to smoke as a pretentious 16 year old.

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              • Stanfordian
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 9284

                Offenbach
                ‘Les Contes d’Hoffmann’ opéra fantastique in five acts
                Olympia, Giulietta – Kerstin Avemo
                Antonia, Giulietta – Mandy Fredrich
                La Muse, Niklausse, La Voix de la tombe – Rachel Frenkel
                Hoffmann – Daniel Johansson
                Lindorf, Maître Luther, Coppélius, Le docteur Miracle, Le capitaine Dapertutto – Michael Volle
                Spalanzani – Bengt-Ola Morgny
                Crespel – Ketil Hugaas
                Andrès, Cochenille, Frantz – Christoph Mortagne
                Nathanaël – Hoël Troadec
                Hermann – Josef Kovačič
                Wilhelm – Petr Svoboda
                Stell (non singing part) – Pär (Pelle) Karlsson
                Prague Philharmonic Choir,
                Wiener Symphoniker/Johannes Debus
                Stage Director – Stefan Herheim
                Set Design – Christof Hetzer
                Costume Design – Esther Bialas
                Recorded live 2015 Festspielhaus, Bregenz Festival
                C Major Blu-ray

                Wonderful entertainment! Evokative of the decadent Berlin cabaret scene -
                even the men are wearing basques, black stockings and high heels.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Egon Wellesz - Symphony #9 (1971)

                  Earlier, Xenakis - Nama & Khoai

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7669

                    Another charity shop purchase.

                    Lucia Popp with Geoffrey Parsons at the Salzburg Festival on 18th August 1981

                    Orfeo label.

                    Absolutely gorgeous singing. Her style reminds me a little of Magdalena Kozena.

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                    • Stanfordian
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9284

                      Bel Canto - Kathleen Battle Sings Italian Opera Arias
                      Bellini
                      I Capuleti ed i Montecchi & La Sonnambula,
                      Rossini
                      Tancredi & Il viaggio a Reims,
                      Donizetti
                      Don Pasquale & Linda ii Chamounix
                      Kathleen Battle (soprano)
                      The Ambrosian Opera Chorus
                      London Philharmonic Orchestra/Bruno Campanella
                      Recorded 1991 St John's, Smith Square, London
                      Deutsche Grammophon

                      Schumann
                      String Quartets No’s 1-3
                      Melos Quartet
                      Recorded 1986/7 Zentralsaal, Bamberg, Germany
                      Deutsche Grammophon

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                      • pastoralguy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7669

                        Schumann. Symphony no. 4

                        Vienna Philharmonic conducted by Sir Georg Solti.

                        Decca.

                        Hard to believe this was recorded in 1967.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Having taken a rain check on the Schønwandt recording of Ruders' The Handmaid's Tale I have now resorted to the 2003 E.N.O. production as broadcast on Radio 3 DAB (192kbps mp2). In these days of the iPlayer at 320kbps aac, the audio quality of DAB sound very distinctly second rate, but just about acceptable, and at least I can understand the clearly enunciated words. The Danish original is quite beyond my grasp, and it's three decades since I read the book.

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                          • jayne lee wilson
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 10711

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            Having taken a rain check on the Schønwandt recording of Ruders' The Handmaid's Tale I have now resorted to the 2003 E.N.O. production as broadcast on Radio 3 DAB (192kbps mp2). In these days of the iPlayer at 320kbps aac, the audio quality of DAB sound very distinctly second rate, but just about acceptable, and at least I can understand the clearly enunciated words. The Danish original is quite beyond my grasp, and it's three decades since I read the book.
                            You're following the dramatisation on C4? Outstanding, and quite difficult to watch - just as it should be....

                            IN Other News...

                            Enescu
                            Piano Quartets 1 & 2.

                            Voces Quartet/Yvonne Piedemonte. Olympia CD (from Electrecord) rec. 1981.
                            Schubert Ensemble. Chandos 24/96 rec. 2010. Replay Audirvana+.
                            Tammuz Piano Quartet, streamed via Qobuz HiFi. CPO Rec. 2008.

                            All of these have their very high merits - perhaps I'm fondest of the Romanian performers on Olympia, for that peculiarly Slav, Gypsy, Tziganish way they have with rhythm and phrase, the angularity, lean-ness and spontaneity, the avoidance of opulent Brahmsian tone.
                            Yet the Schubert Ensemble recordings followed years of a devoted Enescu project, and their rich smooth passions are hard to resist. The Rolls-Royce version.
                            Then the Tammuz, (with a former Wiener Philharmoniker concertmaster Daniel Gaede, as their violinist) whose faster tempi in the finale of No.1 made all the difference for this listener: I began to get it, at last.... (because ​they got it, better than most). Their ​andante mesto is more touching than any, and their sheer grip of these shape-shifting, constantly-evolving forms and ideas the keenest of all.

                            Such elusive music - perhaps scarcely to attend to unless you're prepared for many repeated listenings; so rewarding if you are...when you arrive at the heavenly 2nd thematic group in the first movement of No.1, maybe for the third or fourth time....then you'll understand... then you'll know.
                            ​Enescu - For the Happy Few...
                            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 11-07-17, 04:22.

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9284

                              Kiri Te Kanawa - Mozart Arias
                              Opera arias: Le nozze di Figaro, Der Schauspieldirektor; concert arias: Ah, lo previdi K272,
                              Vado, ma dove K583, O temerario Arbace... Per quel paterno amplesso K79/73D,
                              Chi sà, chi sà, qual sia K582, Non più, tutto ascoltai… Non temer, amato bene K490,
                              Bella mia fiamma... Resta, oh cara K528, Nehmt meinen Dank, ihr holden Gönner! K383
                              Kiri Te Kanawa (soprano)
                              LSO/Sir Georg Solti; Wiener Philharmoniker/Sir John Pritchard;
                              Wiener Kammerorchester/György Fischer
                              Recorded 1981 Kingsway Hall, London; 1990 Konzerthaus & 1980 Sofiensaal, Wien
                              Decca

                              Schoenberg
                              String Quartet No’s 1-4
                              String Quartet in D major (1897)
                              Margaret Price (soprano) (No. 2)
                              LaSalle Quartet
                              Recorded 1970 Pienansaal der Akademie der Wissenschaften, Munich
                              Brilliant Classics

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                              • pastoralguy
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7669

                                Sibelius. 'Finlandia'. Dvorák. Symphony no.9 'From the New World'.

                                Chineke! Orchestra conducted by Kevin John Edusei.

                                Very good playing and performance if unlikely to knock the top exponents of these works off their perches.

                                Also, rather short measure at 49' 31" but I believe the soloist in the concerto was contracted to someone else. Still, a nice souvenir of a laudable enterprise.

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