What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? III

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  • HighlandDougie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3038

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    I'll give it a try, though in recent decades I have been rather more taken wth the 2nd Piano Concerto. I probably listened to the 3rd too often in my youth (that and its 'progeny', the Ireland Piano Concerto).
    Me too - like the Ravel PC in G, I've heard it much too often and tend to avoid it these days so, not having listened to it for some time, maybe that's why I enjoyed this performance so much. Agree about the 2nd but even that can pall with over-listening. And, yes, shame that MA seems to have given that concerto a complete body swerve.

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    • Joseph K
      Banned
      • Oct 2017
      • 7765

      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
      I listened to Sur Incises yesterday (not one of my favourite Boulez pieces).

      Today it's Messagesquisse and Anthemes 2.

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      • Mandryka
        Full Member
        • Feb 2021
        • 1486

        Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
        I listened to Sur Incises yesterday (not one of my favourite Boulez pieces).

        Today it's Messagesquisse and Anthemes 2.

        I like the original Anthèmes (Anthèmes I) more - partly because I’m more interested in solo music. Irvine Arditti made a fabulous recording of it. I remember thinking Messagesquisse is nice though.

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        • Joseph K
          Banned
          • Oct 2017
          • 7765

          Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
          I like the original Anthèmes (Anthèmes I) more - partly because I’m more interested in solo music. Irvine Arditti made a fabulous recording of it. I remember thinking Messagesquisse is nice though.
          I am fond of Anthèmes 1 & 2 (more so number 2 probably) and Messagesquisse...

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          • Stanfordian
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 9282

            Bax
            Concertante for cor anglais, clarinet, horn & orchestra
            London Pageant,
            Suite from Tamara
            Cathaleen-ni-Hoolihan
            BBC Philharmonic / Martyn Brabbins
            Recorded 2000 New Broadcasting House, Manchester
            Chandos

            Bryn Terfel – ‘Silent Noon’
            English Songs by Stanford, Quilter, Gurney, Keel, Elwyn-Edwards, Vaughan Williams,
            Somervell, Head, Britten, Warlock, Parry, Dunhill

            Bryn Terfel (bass-baritone) & Malcolm Martineau (piano)
            Recorded 2003/04 Henry Wood Hall, London
            Deutsche Grammophon

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
              Bax
              Concertante for cor anglais, clarinet, horn & orchestra
              London Pageant,
              Suite from Tamara
              Cathaleen-ni-Hoolihan
              BBC Philharmonic / Martyn Brabbins
              Recorded 2000 New Broadcasting House, Manchester
              Chandos

              Bryn Terfel – ‘Silent Noon’
              English Songs by Stanford, Quilter, Gurney, Keel, Elwyn-Edwards, Vaughan Williams,
              Somervell, Head, Britten, Warlock, Parry, Dunhill

              Bryn Terfel (bass-baritone) & Malcolm Martineau (piano)
              Recorded 2003/04 Henry Wood Hall, London
              Deutsche Grammophon
              I don’t know that Bax recording?!?!?

              This morning’s listening

              Brahms
              Serenade in D major, Op.11
              Serenade No.2 in A major, Op.16
              Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
              Bernard Haitink.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Joseph K
                Banned
                • Oct 2017
                • 7765

                Bruckner - Symphony no. 8 - Vienna Philharmonic/Boulez

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25166

                  Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                  Bruckner - Symphony no. 8 - Vienna Philharmonic/Boulez
                  Let us know what you think of it…….
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Joseph K
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 7765

                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Let us know what you think of it…….
                    Enjoying it. Not so much thinking about how Boulez interprets it - rather about Bruckner & how he's not really about melodies or even themes but rather texture, harmony and structure...

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25166

                      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                      Enjoying it. Not so much thinking about how Boulez interprets it - rather about Bruckner & how he's not really about melodies but rather texture, harmony and structure...
                      …..and there I was thinking what nice melodies#8 has …..

                      Not sure I have ever heard any Boulez Bruckner in fact. ( Probably have, but have lined this up for a play in any case, as I rather like #8.)
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Joseph K
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 7765

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        …..and there I was thinking what nice melodies#8 has …..

                        Not sure I have ever heard any Boulez Bruckner in fact. ( Probably have, but have lined this up for a play in any case, as I rather like #8.)
                        Let us know what you think.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          …..and there I was thinking what nice melodies#8 has …..

                          Not sure I have ever heard any Boulez Bruckner in fact. ( Probably have, but have lined this up for a play in any case, as I rather like #8.)
                          Boulez Bruckner is as rare as hens' teeth. His 8th is well worth hearing, though it has always confused me that Boulez, with his supposed respect for the composition, should have chosen to use the Haas which, for all the way it flows, is not a score approved by its named composer. It's something of a cut-and-paste job, restoring some sections which Bruckner chose to remove.

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12116

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            Boulez Bruckner is as rare as hens' teeth. His 8th is well worth hearing, though it has always confused me that Boulez, with his supposed respect for the composition, should have chosen to use the Haas which, for all the way it flows, is not a score approved by its named composer. It's something of a cut-and-paste job, restoring some sections which Bruckner chose to remove.
                            The 8th was the only Bruckner symphony that Boulez recorded. However, the VPO concert archive reveals that he also conducted the 9th (in 2001) and the 7th (in 2005 and 2007).



                            Rather a shame he didn't commit those to disc as well though I'm sure that the Austrian Radio (ORF) will have recordings stored in their vaults.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • RichardB
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2021
                              • 2170

                              I liked Boulez's Bruckner 8, despite going into it feeling that it probably wasn't going to do much for me. On the other hand I didn't find it as powerful as Giulini with the same orchestra which is my benchmark for Bruckner recordings.

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                              • RichardB
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2021
                                • 2170

                                Now playing here: Brahms, Deutsches Requiem, the live 2008 recording conducted by JEG. Not much difference in interpretation between this and his earlier recording, although the liveness of it is certainly a plus, as are the two Schütz motets that open the programme. I would have liked the orchestra to be a bit more forward in the mix, but otherwise this is very fine indeed. I think I might just still prefer Herreweghe, but for some reason Qobuz misses out some of its tracks.

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