What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? III

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  • Mandryka
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    • Feb 2021
    • 1486

    Georg Friedrich Haas, In Vain.

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    • BBMmk2
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      This morning. Listening to last night’s Prom.

      Vaughan Williams
      Symphony No.4
      Sir Michael Tippett
      Symphony No 4
      BBC Philharmonic Orchestra
      Sir Andrew Davis.
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Stanfordian
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        • Dec 2010
        • 9282

        Debussy
        Fantaisie for piano & orchestra
        Jean-Yves Thibaudet (piano)
        Première Rapsodie, version for clarinet & orchestra
        Paul Meyer (clarinet)
        Rapsodie for saxophone & orchestra (orch. J. Roger-Ducasse)
        Alexandre Doisy (saxophone)
        Deux Danses for harp & strings
        Emmanuel Ceysson (harp)
        Orchestre National de Lyon / Jun Märkl
        Recorded 2010/11 Auditorium de Lyon, France
        Naxos – Debussy Orchestral Works, Vol. 7

        Stéphanie d’Oustrac – ‘Invitation au Voyage’
        Mélodies Françaises from Duparc, de la Presle, Debussy, Boulanger & Hahn

        Stéphanie d’Oustrac (mezzo-soprano) & Pascal Jourdan (piano)
        Recorded 2014, Espace culturel C.J. Bonnet, Chapel of Jujurieux, Ambronay
        Ambronay Éditions

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        • Mandryka
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          • Feb 2021
          • 1486

          Georg Freidrich Has, In Vain. Second time in 24 hours. I guess there’s something about it which has caught my imagination.

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          • Joseph K
            Banned
            • Oct 2017
            • 7765

            Disk no. 20: Boulez, Pli selon Pli. The last version of course.

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            • BBMmk2
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              John Adams
              Harmonielehre
              The Chairman Dances
              Two Fanfares:
              Tromba Lontana
              Short Ride in a Fast Machine
              City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra
              Sir Simon Rattle.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Stanfordian
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                • Dec 2010
                • 9282

                Rossini
                Semiramide, opera in two acts (1823)
                Semiramide - Albina Shagimuratova (soprano); Arsace - Daniela Barcellona (mezzo-soprano);
                Assur - Mirco Palazzi (bass); Idreno - Barry Banks (tenor); Oroe - Gianluca Buratto (bass);
                Azema - Susana Gaspar (soprano); Mitrane - David Butt Philip (tenor); Nino’s ghost - James Platt (bass)
                Opera Rara Chorus,
                Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment / Sir Mark Elder
                Recorded 2016 Henry Wood Hall, London
                Opera Rara, 4 CD set

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                • Joseph K
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                  • Oct 2017
                  • 7765

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                    To what extent and in what ways would you say that he developed in the 54 years since this piece?

                    By the way, I see that he died yesterday.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37244

                      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                      To what extent and in what ways would you say that he developed in the 54 years since this piece?

                      By the way, I see that he died yesterday.
                      This is my first ever encounter with Hespos' music. The mainly German commentaries, plus not having much else to hand of Hespos' music, renders any sort of assessment of him impossible, so one waits for guidance from anyone who knows more. I'm not normally attracted to harshness, but there is something compelling in a good sense about this music.

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16122

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        This is my first ever encounter with Hespos' music. The mainly German commentaries, plus not having much else to hand of Hespos' music, renders any sort of assessment of him impossible, so one waits for guidance from anyone who knows more. I'm not normally attracted to harshness, but there is something compelling in a good sense about this music.
                        Over to RichardB whom I believe studied with him...

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25166

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          This is my first ever encounter with Hespos' music. The mainly German commentaries, plus not having much else to hand of Hespos' music, renders any sort of assessment of him impossible, so one waits for guidance from anyone who knows more. I'm not normally attracted to harshness, but there is something compelling in a good sense about this music.
                          Record liner notes here in English, S-A.
                          Fill ones boots, as the Queens English would have it




                          ( just imagine having RB as a student )
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37244

                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            Record liner notes here in English, S-A.
                            Fill ones boots, as the Queens English would have it




                            ( just imagine having RB as a student )
                            Most grateful, thanks, TS. The liner shares that characteristic of all translated German text in reading the way a German might say the same thing in English, in that clipped, pointed - manner - in - which - every - word - is - precisely - delivered - and - separate - from - its - successor.

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                            • RichardB
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2021
                              • 2170

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              This is my first ever encounter with Hespos' music. The mainly German commentaries, plus not having much else to hand of Hespos' music, renders any sort of assessment of him impossible, so one waits for guidance from anyone who knows more. I'm not normally attracted to harshness, but there is something compelling in a good sense about this music.
                              This piece dschen was inspired by the playing of Peter Brötzmann, and I know of another composition by Hespos which is dedicated to Albert Ayler, so what you may be finding compelling is the free jazz connection. The sounds of his music act on one another not dissimilarly to the way improvising performers might interact, although his compositional structures unfold in a way that improvisation couldn't, often veering between violent outbursts (where the players often use their voices as well as their instruments) and the most delicate kinds of almost-stillness. One aspect that isn't so apparent from listening alone is the way in which many of his pieces involve a theatrical component as well as sound, in a way that's reminiscent of Artaud's "theatre of cruelty" (in one piece I've seen, entitled seiltanz ("tightrope dance"), a percussionist arcwelds his way out of a metal cage during the performance). Most importantly, maybe, he didn't belong to any school or established style of composition and wasn't interested in promulgating his own style but rather saw it as a way to activate the imagination of listeners.

                              I can't claim to have been his student although when I first encountered him and his work, at the Darmstadt course in 1984, I lost no time in cornering him to ask his opinion about the scores I had brought with me. His response was that the music is was writing consisted "only of notes", and that I ought to scrape away at them to reveal the inside of the sounds, or something like that. Anyway, this advice was decisive, not only in terms of compositional direction, but also, much later, in terms of teaching, in that one well-chosen and precisely aimed comment can be more valuable than months of work on technique.

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                              • Joseph K
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 7765

                                Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                                This piece dschen was inspired by the playing of Peter Brötzmann, and I know of another composition by Hespos which is dedicated to Albert Ayler, so what you may be finding compelling is the free jazz connection. The sounds of his music act on one another not dissimilarly to the way improvising performers might interact, although his compositional structures unfold in a way that improvisation couldn't, often veering between violent outbursts (where the players often use their voices as well as their instruments) and the most delicate kinds of almost-stillness. One aspect that isn't so apparent from listening alone is the way in which many of his pieces involve a theatrical component as well as sound, in a way that's reminiscent of Artaud's "theatre of cruelty" (in one piece I've seen, entitled seiltanz ("tightrope dance"), a percussionist arcwelds his way out of a metal cage during the performance). Most importantly, maybe, he didn't belong to any school or established style of composition and wasn't interested in promulgating his own style but rather saw it as a way to activate the imagination of listeners.

                                I can't claim to have been his student although when I first encountered him and his work, at the Darmstadt course in 1984, I lost no time in cornering him to ask his opinion about the scores I had brought with me. His response was that the music is was writing consisted "only of notes", and that I ought to scrape away at them to reveal the inside of the sounds, or something like that. Anyway, this advice was decisive, not only in terms of compositional direction, but also, much later, in terms of teaching, in that one well-chosen and precisely aimed comment can be more valuable than months of work on technique.
                                Thanks for this. Some of the piece actually reminded me somewhat of Pharaoh Sanders' playing with John Coltrane - I wish I'd mentioned this observation, rather than just thinking it at the time!

                                The theatrical element you mention puts me in mind of some of Klaus K. Hubler's work.

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