What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? III

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    Vaughan Williams
    Symphony 4
    In the fen country
    Symphony 6

    BBC Philharmonic
    John Wilson

    May 2022 BBC Music Magazine cover CD
    I have received mine, as well. Not listened to it, yet, though.

    Today’s listening

    Florentt Schmitt
    Psaume XLVIII, Op.38
    (Andréa Guiot, soprano, Gaston Litaize, organ,
    Chœurs de l’ORTF
    Orchestre l’ORTF
    Jean Martinon)
    La Tragédie de Salomé, Op.50
    Maîtrise de l’ORTF
    Orchestre de l’ORTF
    Jean Martinon)

    Bruckner Symphonies, Haas Edition)
    Symphony No.4 in Eb major, “Romantic”
    Symphony No.5 in Bb major
    Symphony Mo.6 in A major
    Chicago Symphony Orchestra
    Daniel Barenboim.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Still listening, but they strike me as a little superficial, though that's probably being a bit unfair.

      I'm not a fan of his interpretations either, and don't understand all the acclaim.
      I'm listening to the 4th, now. The word that comes to mind is prosaic. All the right notes, in the right order, but rather shapeless. I don't think this is what RVW meant (nod, nod, wink wink).

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      • RichardB
        Banned
        • Nov 2021
        • 2170

        Wagner, Prelude & Liebestod; Bruckner, Symphonies 1 & 5. Gewandhausorchester & Andris Nelsons.

        Well up to the standard of Nelsons' Bruckner symphonies (not forgetting the interspersed Wagner items) so far. I wasn't looking forward to no.1 particularly because it's not a work I've seen very much in until now, but this recording has almost changed my mind.

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        • silvestrione
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1670

          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          I can imagine that being quite impressive.
          Which orchestra: BBCSO?
          Yes, at a Prom in 2013. He had been down to do it at Snape, possibly with a different orchestra, but was ill and Edward Gardiner stepped in. That, also, was excellent (I was there).

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22057

            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            I'm listening to the 4th, now. The word that comes to mind is prosaic. All the right notes, in the right order, but rather shapeless. I don't think this is what RVW meant (nod, nod, wink wink).
            I would say the best relatively new RVW4 I have heard is RLPO Manze, though I’m not sure a tenor voice fits the coupled Pastoral!

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              I would say the best relatively new RVW4 I have heard is RLPO Manze, though I’m not sure a tenor voice fits the coupled Pastoral!
              Yes, Manze has a real feel for RVW's work. Are there any recordings that substitute a clarinet for the voice in the Pastoral?

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              • pastoralguy
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7669

                Beethoven. Symphony No.9

                Herbert Von Karajan conducting Die Berliner Philharmoniker. 1980’s recording.

                I’d forgotten how convincing this performance is. I have the re-mastered 1980’s box set and the sound is excellent.

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                • Mario
                  Full Member
                  • Aug 2020
                  • 556

                  VIEUXTEMPS H

                  VC No 4 in D min Op 31 (1935)
                  VC No 5 in A min Op 37 (1947)

                  LPO – Heifetz J – Barbirolli Sir J

                  Mario

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    Beethoven. Symphony No.9

                    Herbert Von Karajan conducting Die Berliner Philharmoniker. 1980’s recording.

                    I’d forgotten how convincing this performance is. I have the re-mastered 1980’s box set and the sound is excellent.
                    Interesting. The general view appears to be that the 1980s digital recordings were his weakest.

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                    • Stanfordian
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9284

                      Brahms
                      Piano Quintet in F minor, Op. 33
                      Shostakovich
                      Piano Quintet in G minor, Op. 57
                      Olga Kern (piano)
                      Dalí Quartet
                      Recorded 2019, Robin Hixon Theatre, Norfolk, VA, USA
                      Delos new CD

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                      • silvestrione
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1670

                        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                        Beethoven. Symphony No.9

                        Herbert Von Karajan conducting Die Berliner Philharmoniker. 1980’s recording.

                        I’d forgotten how convincing this performance is. I have the re-mastered 1980’s box set and the sound is excellent.
                        I have that box but have never listened to the 9th, largely for the reasons mentioned by Bryn. But silly, really, because I love the 'Eroica' in that cycle...admired by Richard Osborne.

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                        • pastoralguy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7669

                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Interesting. The general view appears to be that the 1980s digital recordings were his weakest.
                          I thought that too but I started listening and found I became really involved. The playing of the Berlin Philharmonic is absolutely superb!

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                          • richardfinegold
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 7514

                            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                            Beethoven. Symphony No.9

                            Herbert Von Karajan conducting Die Berliner Philharmoniker. 1980’s recording.

                            I’d forgotten how convincing this performance is. I have the re-mastered 1980’s box set and the sound is excellent.
                            it has been emastered a bunch of times, I have the Blu Ray. The whole cycle just sounds so right

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                            • visualnickmos
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3608

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Interesting. The general view appears to be that the 1980s digital recordings were his weakest.
                              I too, love that cycle; the sound is technically stunning.... and the playing equally so. I really don't know how the rumour about it being the 'weakest' came about - if indeed, it exists at all.

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                                I too, love that cycle; the sound is technically stunning.... and the playing equally so. I really don't know how the rumour about it being the 'weakest' came about - if indeed, it exists at all.
                                I note that while the 1960s and 1970s sets have been remastered to Blu-ray, the 1980s set has not. Perhaps this is because the sample rate and quantization used in those early digital recordings would not benefit much from remastering at a higher resolution? The lack may also reflect the view that the recordings were not up to the standard of the '60s and '70s sets. I will have to unload the stacks of CDs from the top of the big DG/Decca Karajan box on its lazy Susan and give the digital Ninth a spin.

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