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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    1 + 1 + 1 = Dream Ticket?

    Thinking of great orchestral works, excellent orchestras and top flight conductors, and what might have been!

    Recordings.

    Never happened ......

    ...... or never will.

    Here’s a few:


    DSCH 10 + New York Philharmonic + Pierre Boulez

    Sibelius 3 + BPO + Herbert von Karajan

    Bartok Concerto for Orchestra + Les Siècles + François-Xavier Roth

    Peter Maxwell Davies Symphony #1 + BBC Symphony Orchestra + Andrew Manze

    Robert Simpson 9 + BPO + Simon Rattle



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    Last edited by Beef Oven!; 15-03-17, 22:18. Reason: Somehow, I contrived to get a minus on Karajan!
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    Elgar: Symphony no. 1 - VPO/Mahler

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Elgar: Symphony no. 1 - VPO/Mahler
      Wow! I hadn’t braved thoughts like that!

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      • Warlock
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 35

        #4
        Bach:Saint Matthew Passion:BPO/Barbirolli

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        • pastoralguy
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7757

          #5
          Elgar conducting his Violin Concerto with Kreisler as soloist as well as his Introduction and Allegro.

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7757

            #6
            Sibelius conducting his Symphonies.

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            • pastoralguy
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7757

              #7
              I believe Karajan was interested in conducting Walton 1 and DSCH 8 mit Der Berliner Philharmoniker. Alas, he was too preoccupied re-re-re recording the same repertoire.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #8
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                I believe Karajan was interested in conducting Walton 1 and DSCH 8 mit Der Berliner Philharmoniker. Alas, he was too preoccupied re-re-re recording the same repertoire.


                DSCH 8 would’ve been interesting (well, the Walton too, I suppose).

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12247

                  #9
                  Walton 1/Sir Georg Solti
                  Mahler 1, 2, 3, 7 & 8/Herbert von Karajan
                  Sibelius 3/Herbert von Karajan

                  Most of all, though, Haydn & Mozart symphonies from Bernard Haitink. It seems astonishing that there are only two Haydn symphonies from him and no Mozart at all apart from a live Prague with the Dresden Staatskapelle. He performs them often, and to great effect, but it is a complete mystery to me why there are so few recordings. There's plenty in various radio archives, of course, and no doubt some will appear in due course, but someone needs to get a move on if he is ever going to set down any commercial recordings.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    I believe Karajan was interested in conducting Walton 1 and DSCH 8 mit Der Berliner Philharmoniker. Alas, he was too preoccupied re-re-re recording the same repertoire.
                    Well, his third recording of the Bruckner #8 (and his fifth of the Beethoven #7, for that matter) is to be more treasured if his cuts in the Walton had been incorporated!

                    Walton / Symphony No.1 in B-flat minorKarajan & RAI Roma Orchestra (Rome 5 Dec.1953, Live)Artificial Stereo by Fuyuhiko Sasaki Vol.12 Ⓟ2015(Expansion of my A...
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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      How about Karajan + Rostropovich + BPO = Elgar 'cello Concerto?
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                      • pastoralguy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7757

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        How about Karajan + Rostropovich + BPO = Elgar 'cello Concerto?
                        Now that would have been interesting! However, I believe Rostropovich was reluctant to play the Elgar since, iirc, he felt du Pre had said the last word on the piece.

                        Karajan doing Elgar would have been very interesting. The Introduction and Allegro with the Berlin Phil's strings...

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12247

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          Now that would have been interesting! However, I believe Rostropovich was reluctant to play the Elgar since, iirc, he felt du Pre had said the last word on the piece.

                          Karajan doing Elgar would have been very interesting. The Introduction and Allegro with the Berlin Phil's strings...
                          I think I'm right in saying that Karajan expressed an interest in the Elgar 2 and went as far as to look at the score but, alas, nothing came of it.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            I think I'm right in saying that Karajan expressed an interest in the Elgar 2 and went as far as to look at the score but, alas, nothing came of it.
                            Yes - around the time he was preparing the Nielsen #4, he had copies of both Symphonies and other Elgar scores sent to him for study. He returned all of them fairly quickly, except for the Second which interested him most - but then either decided that it wasn't for him, or time ran out for him. An intriguing "might-have-been" (and how about Karajan + Anne-Sophie Mutter + BPO = Elgar Violin Concerto?)

                            There's Solti and D o G, too, of course ...
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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              Bruckner Symphony no.8/Gustav Mahler/NYPO.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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