Bernard Haitink - the last remaining 'grand master’?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6459

    #31
    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
    Especially if he did.....say....off the top of my head.....some RVW
    I'd settle for

    Strauss: Don Juan

    Britten: Our Hunting Fathers

    Vaughan Williams: Symphony 3

    Comment

    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #32
      I like R. Strauss, and DJ is a favourite. But it’s going to take a lot to entice me away from my Karajans!

      Comment

      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6459

        #33
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        I like R. Strauss, and DJ is a favourite. But it’s going to take a lot to entice me away from my Karajans!
        Just listened again actually. Such a phenomenal experience sitting in the choir seats so close to all the action. BH was on bloody fire that night!

        Comment

        • EdgeleyRob
          Guest
          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          #34
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          I'd settle for

          Strauss: Don Juan

          Britten: Our Hunting Fathers

          Vaughan Williams: Symphony 3

          Comment

          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22126

            #35
            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
            I suggest a Job

            Comment

            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12252

              #36
              I've been incredibly lucky to have attended so many Haitink concerts over the years - and with almost all of the orchestras he's ever been associated with. However, there are some that stand out as ultra special like the 1979 Concertgebouw Mahler 5 referred to above, the 1983 Proms of Mozart 35 & Bruckner 9 and Wagner Siegfried Idyll & Shostakovich 8; Mahler 2 in 1978 with the LPO and many more. Don't think a year has gone by since 1978 without me seeing him at least once.

              Top spot, though, must, I think, be reserved for the Mahler 3 in the Barbican with the BPO on Sept 27 2004, one of the greatest concert hall experiences of my life.

              The very first Mahler LP I ever bought (Feb 16 1973, BeefO ) was Haitink's second recording of Mahler 1. It completely blew me away (and still does) and I played the disc to death. The rest, as they say, is history.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

              Comment

              • makropulos
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1674

                #37
                Many marvellous experiences of Haitink, starting with the Symphonie fantastique at the Proms on 2 September 1970, and Mahler 3 the next year. One favourite concert from a couple of years later comprised: Elgar In the South, Mozart scenes from Entführung, VW Symphony No. 4. Tremendous.

                Plenty of over 80s still active as conductors, though Haitink is certainly one of the most venerable. Skrowacewski, Blomstedt, Gielen (retired), von Dohnányi, Rozhdestvensky - and the likes of Inbal, Macal and Zinman are now over 80 too.

                Comment

                • EdgeleyRob
                  Guest
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12180

                  #38
                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  I suggest a Job
                  Oh yes !

                  Comment

                  • Alison
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6459

                    #39
                    Mehta 80 and Ozawa 81.

                    Comment

                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22126

                      #40
                      Andre Previn is 87 and Neeme Jarvi will be 80 in June.

                      Comment

                      • DublinJimbo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1222

                        #41
                        I totally agree about Maestro Haitink's position as a 'grand master', but I wouldn't agree that he's the last remaining. Herbert Blomstedt is no slouch either,

                        Comment

                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DublinJimbo View Post
                          I totally agree about Maestro Haitink's position as a 'grand master', but I wouldn't agree that he's the last remaining. Herbert Blomstedt is no slouch either,
                          Hence the question mark in the thread title.

                          I became acquainted with Blomstedt’s art about 26 years ago with his San Fransisco Nielsen cycle, which still more than holds its own today. I also like his Sibelius cycle which I only bought a couple of years ago (it doesn’t get mention on these boards, or anywhere else for that matter). His Gewandhaus Bruckner is highly praised - I only have symphony #3 (which one of the very best out there) because the cycle is a bit expensive and I expect it to drop in price significantly when it becomes more widely available. If it doesn’t, I’ll just have to stump-up.

                          Sadly, I know little else. Is anyone who is more familiar with maestro Blomstedt, willing and able to briefly make the case for him?

                          Comment

                          • richardfinegold
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 7666

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            Hence the question mark in the thread title.

                            I became acquainted with Blomstedt’s art about 26 years ago with his San Fransisco Nielsen cycle, which still more than holds its own today. I also like his Sibelius cycle which I only bought a couple of years ago (it doesn’t get mention on these boards, or anywhere else for that matter). His Gewandhaus Bruckner is highly praised - I only have symphony #3 (which one of the very best out there) because the cycle is a bit expensive and I expect it to drop in price significantly when it becomes more widely available. If it doesn’t, I’ll just have to stump-up.

                            Sadly, I know little else. Is anyone who is more familiar with maestro Blomstedt, willing and able to briefly make the case for him?
                            I have his Beethoven cycle from the 70s, with the Dresden Staatkapelle, and I think it cost about $5 for the whole thing on Brilliant Classics, hopefully still available. I recently added his Schubert cycle from the same era and both are highly recommended. In San Fran, besides the Sibelius and Nielsen cycles, he had a good mini Hindemith cycle (his Symphonic Metamorphosis....very characterful) and a very well done Carmina Burana. He had an earlier Nielsen set with a Danish Orchestra. He doesn't do Mahler

                            Comment

                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #44
                              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                              I have his Beethoven cycle from the 70s, with the Dresden Staatkapelle, and I think it cost about $5 for the whole thing on Brilliant Classics, hopefully still available. I recently added his Schubert cycle from the same era and both are highly recommended. In San Fran, besides the Sibelius and Nielsen cycles, he had a good mini Hindemith cycle (his Symphonic Metamorphosis....very characterful) and a very well done Carmina Burana. He had an earlier Nielsen set with a Danish Orchestra. He doesn't do Mahler
                              Oh yes, I know the Carmina Burana. My friend has it and we’ve listened to it together, but a long time ago. Excellent, I recall.

                              Comment

                              • Richard Tarleton

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                His Gewandhaus Bruckner is highly praised - I only have symphony #3 (which one of the very best out there) because the cycle is a bit expensive and I expect it to drop in price significantly when it becomes more widely available. If it doesn’t, I’ll just have to stump-up.

                                Sadly, I know little else. Is anyone who is more familiar with maestro Blomstedt, willing and able to briefly make the case for him?
                                I've stumped up for the set and am finding it an enthralling experience - live performances, applause with a decent gap after the last chord, almost completely cough-free....£13 a disc so not expensive exactly, just a lot all at once. But it was wearing up to my birthday. I knew nothing about Blomstedt until people sang his praises (his Bruckner's praises) on this forum - comes of living in the sticks. First Tintner, then him. One thing - listen as I might, I can't hear a cymbal in the 7 adagio climax. The only perf to omit it that I've heard since my first live Bruckner 7 in 1972, which was scheduled to be conducted by Klemperer....OK didn't make the performance, but the cymbal player obviously did not have time to rehearse his part so they went ahead as OK would have wished.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X