Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte
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Music that doesn't move you
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostSo are you going to say something about the difference between music and "sonic art"?
BUT I think it's a wonderful testament to Trevor that folks like Tetrachord refer to his work probably without having knowingly heard any of it.Last edited by Guest; 22-01-17, 12:53.
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Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View PostI've failed to find anything worthwhile in Philip Glass's stuff despite twice encountering it as a performer and several times as a victim, er listener. Well, maybe it makes me think of telly ads for Bavarian tin boxes with wheels but that's about it.
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostI’m the same. I did try a number of bits and pieces on Radio3 yesterday, but it did nothing for me. putting his earlier works aside, I just cannot understand why on Earth this composer as popular and programmed as he is. I feel very uncomfortable about dismissing any type of music, approach to music or composer etc, but Glass really stretches me.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostThirded.
Like BeefO, I'm loathe to dismiss a composer so generally, but I share his bewilderment that so many people regard him as a good composer.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Am I right that Glass was right at the forefront of minimalism? Wasn't Music in 12-parts (or whatever its name is) written in the 60s/70s? The trouble is, it's so hard to say anything new. If you try too hard, it stops being minimal. OTOH, Glass has a big following and has been a big commercial success. Probably the hindsight of 50 more years (which will not be mine to enjoy) will put him in his place. Does it move me? Yes but only minimally.
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Originally posted by ardcarp View PostAm I right that Glass was right at the forefront of minimalism? Wasn't Music in 12-parts (or whatever its name is) written in the 60s/70s? The trouble is, it's so hard to say anything new. If you try too hard, it stops being minimal. OTOH, Glass has a big following and has been a big commercial success. Probably the hindsight of 50 more years (which will not be mine to enjoy) will put him in his place. Does it move me? Yes but only minimally.
Yes - he was involved in the early stages of what became known as "Minimalism" (there's stuff from the early/mid-60s that are even more "Minimal", little more than a revisiting of LaMonte Young's drone pieces), and 12 Parts and Einstein were comparatively early works. It's also true that Glass wasn't able to (or interested in) say anything new in that language; unlike Reich, who did go on to develop his language in new ways in subsequent work. (I don't get as much out of these as I do the work up to the mid-late '70s, but there is genuine development of means that escaped Glass.)[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View PostI've failed to find anything worthwhile in Philip Glass's stuff despite twice encountering it as a performer and several times as a victim, er listener. Well, maybe it makes me think of telly ads for Bavarian tin boxes with wheels but that's about it.
It's interesting to speculate as to why Glass is so popular. His music is very approachable, in ways that Schoenberg and Lachenmann are not, but for me often triggers a "Wish he would try something different" reaction.
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Originally posted by ardcarp View PostIf you try too hard, it stops being minimal.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostIt would move me!
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostIt would me, too - out of earshot of it, prontissimo - unless by chance the table top concerned had a wine glass on it full of a particularly fine vintage red or white burgundy or grand cru classé bordeaux, in which case I might even feel prepared to make the sacrifice of actually performing it...
(It should be mentioned that for some reason, the final chord has been lopped from this link )
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