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  • Tapiola
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1688

    The Confession of Isobel Gowdie

    Perhaps a bit of a long shot, but, help, please, if possible!

    I am looking for a research copy of the Proms premiere of MacMillans's "The Confession of Isobel Gowdie". I am due to deliver a talk in a few weeks as part of a series on 17th Century witchcraft in these isles and had hoped to illustrate it with reference to MacMillan's work. I have the Vanska recording on BIS but was hoping to use the premiere performance of the work - easily the most visceral rendition I know. My own cassette research copy of this premiere performance, is, upon recent inspection, too badly degraded to be of much use.

    If anyone could possibly direct me to to a source of this premiere, please pm me!

    Thank you!
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    It's fairly unlikely as I do not have much time for MacMillan's work in general but if you can give the date of the broadcast I will check whether I have the DAB mp2 somewhere (I think it was before the age of the iPlayer).

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    • Stanley Stewart
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1071

      #3
      Google lists the date as PROMS 1990!

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        #4
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        It's fairly unlikely as I do not have much time for MacMillan's work in general but if you can give the date of the broadcast I will check whether I have the DAB mp2 somewhere (I think it was before the age of the iPlayer).
        I’m not crazy about Sir James, but Gowdie’s good.

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        • Alison
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 6455

          #5
          I was there but haven't got a recording. It did create quite a stir in the audience.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #6
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            I was there but haven't got a recording. It did create quite a stir in the audience.
            Always touched by your presence, dear?

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            • Pulcinella
              Host
              • Feb 2014
              • 10925

              #7
              Of no help to Tapiola (sorry!) but I was pleasantly surprised to see how many different recordings are available when I did a little search, though the first recording, by the BBCSSO under Maksymiuk, c/w Tryst, which I have, seems no longer to be generally available (some ridiculous prices on Amazon, but also used copies from £0.98):
              Buy MacMillan: The Confession of Isobel Gowdie / Tryst by Maksymiuk, BBC Scottish So from Amazon's Classical Music Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.

              Are the more recent recordings/renderings better?

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                Originally posted by Stanley Stewart View Post
                Google lists the date as PROMS 1990!
                Ah. In that case I will not have it. Had I recorded it from FM to cassette, I would have soon discarded it.

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                • Tapiola
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1688

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  It's fairly unlikely as I do not have much time for MacMillan's work in general but if you can give the date of the broadcast I will check whether I have the DAB mp2 somewhere (I think it was before the age of the iPlayer).
                  I think it was a live relay - 22nd August 1990. My copy is a (virtually unplayable now) third-generation dub from a composer friend (now long since uncontactable) who captured it. I share your's and Beefy's lack of complete love for Jimmy's oeuvre, but this work stands out, for me.
                  Last edited by Tapiola; 15-01-17, 20:46. Reason: illiteracy

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                  • Tapiola
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Of no help to Tapiola (sorry!) but I was pleasantly surprised to see how many different recordings are available when I did a little search, though the first recording, by the BBCSSO under Maksymiuk, c/w Tryst, which I have, seems no longer to be generally available (some ridiculous prices on Amazon, but also used copies from £0.98):
                    Buy MacMillan: The Confession of Isobel Gowdie / Tryst by Maksymiuk, BBC Scottish So from Amazon's Classical Music Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.

                    Are the more recent recordings/renderings better?
                    Thanks Pulcinella. I recall a broadcast years ago of this studio version under Maksymiuk, but, alas, I found it very earthbound in comparison to the premiere. Of course, I think the RAH did its inimitable thing that night, affording the massive tuttis huge affecting resonance.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      I’m not crazy about Sir James, but Gowdie’s good.


                      The premiere was televised - I have it on a videotape somewhere. I'd hoped it would be somewhere on youTube (everything else is!), but alas no. There is this, however, the introductory documentary that JM gave for use before the performance, which might be of some use/interest:

                      Composer James MacMillan talks about his piece "The confession of Isobel Gowdie".
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Tapiola
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                        The premiere was televised - I have it on a videotape somewhere. I'd hoped it would be somewhere on youTube (everything else is!), but alas no. There is this, however, the introductory documentary that JM gave for use before the performance, which might be of some use/interest:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNPolWpX9no
                        Cheers ferney

                        Another friend, of similar vintage to myself, started a doctorate on JMac and went to interview him 'back in the day'. Upon her return from Glasgow, she promptly had a change of heart and switched career. Purely coincidentally, I imagine...

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                          The premiere was televised - I have it on a videotape somewhere. I'd hoped it would be somewhere on youTube (everything else is!), but alas no. There is this, however, the introductory documentary that JM gave for use before the performance, which might be of some use/interest:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNPolWpX9no


                          New to me, thanks.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37680

                            #14
                            At the time I thought it to be a work of considerable promise.

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              At the time I thought it to be a work of considerable promise.
                              Not sure if you’re being serious, but that is exactly what I thought at the time - a great composition, tremendous future potential. What the hell happened????

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