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  • Beef Oven!
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    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Help please, Wagner overtures 2 CD set

    Back in the early/mid 1990s I was in Tower records and I was umming and ahhing about buying a 2 CD set of Wagner overtures. IIRC, one CD had them performed in the usual heavily upholstered, stately, vibrato laden fashion and the other CD had them done in a frugal style. There was an interesting accompanying booklet, which I read in the shop. As I already had a handful of other things in my mitts, I passed this set over. Walking out the shop, I wasn’t sure I’d done the right thing.

    Subsequently, I have tried to identify this set, but no luck.

    Does anyone know what I’m on about?


  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12815

    #2
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    ... not quite sure. I have a Tennstedt twofer, which I wdn't say is "performed in the usual heavily upholstered, stately, vibrato laden fashion"
    .


    Of course what you really want is



    Many thanks for the nostalgia-inducing piccie of the Regent Street Tower Records. Happy memories...

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    • Beef Oven!
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      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #3
      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      .

      ... not quite sure. I have a Tennstedt twofer, which I wdn't say is "performed in the usual heavily upholstered, stately, vibrato laden fashion"
      .


      Of course what you really want is



      Many thanks for the nostalgia-inducing piccie of the Regent Street Tower Records. Happy memories...
      Yes, many a happy hour in Tower records.

      The track-list was the same for each disc, but performed differently. So it won’t be that Tennstedt twofer.

      I have Sir Roger’s Wagner overtures with the London Classical Players on a 2 cd Virgin Veritas set, c/w Bruckner 3. Are they the same performances as the EMI release you link?

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12815

        #4
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post

        I have Sir Roger’s Wagner overtures with the London Classical Players on a 2 cd Virgin Veritas set, c/w Bruckner 3. Are they the same performances as the EMI release you link?
        ... mine has :

        Rienzi 12.09
        Tristan Prelude 6.59
        Liebestod 6.01
        Meistersinger 8.28
        Siegfried idyll 16.19
        Parsifal 10.53
        Lohengrin 2.51

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        • Beef Oven!
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          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #5
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... mine has :

          Rienzi 12.09
          Tristan Prelude 6.59
          Liebestod 6.01
          Meistersinger 8.28
          Siegfried idyll 16.19
          Parsifal 10.53
          Lohengrin 2.51
          Yes, same track list and identical timings.

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12247

            #6
            Wasn't this with Barry Wordsworth and the New Queen's Hall Orchestra?
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Wasn't this with Barry Wordsworth and the New Queen's Hall Orchestra?
              In terms of the year, early/mid 90s, the Wordsworth is close. 94? However, it doesn’t explain the 2 CD part of my mystery.

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              • hafod
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                In terms of the year, early/mid 90s, the Wordsworth is close. 94? However, it doesn’t explain the 2 CD part of my mystery.
                The Wordsworth comes in both single and two cd versions - the programme on each is identical. The ASIN for the double on Amazonuk is B000025YAA (computer problem at the moment as it refuses to create a link) - and quite affordable it is too.

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hafod View Post
                  The Wordsworth comes in both single and two cd versions - the programme on each is identical. The ASIN for the double on Amazonuk is B000025YAA (computer problem at the moment as it refuses to create a link) - and quite affordable it is too.
                  By Jove!

                  I think that’s it!!

                  Well done hafod, I’m well impressed

                  And Petrushka, too

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                  • Petrushka
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12247

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    By Jove!

                    I think that’s it!!

                    Well done hafod, I’m well impressed

                    And Petrushka, too
                    Had to really dredge my memory for that one but I was on my phone on the train coming home from work when I did the message so couldn't check anywhere.

                    Mention of Tower Records unleashed a flood of nostalgia. They were open until midnight on Fridays and I often used go in after a Prom. Spent many happy hours in there. A much missed store.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • visualnickmos
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3610

                      #11
                      Good thread, this one; yes - quite nostalgic - Tower Records late night Friday! Loved it.....! So many other great stores now long-since gone, too....

                      As it was mentioned earlier - that Roger Norrington Wagner overtures etc, CD is rather good. Worth snapping up, and don't let any preconceptions put you off.

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                      • Beef Oven!
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                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #12
                        Yes, happy memories. On-line purchases are certainly much cheaper and downloads are instantly gratifying, but we pay the price in other ways.

                        I miss the two HMVs in Oxford Street (when they were big and well stocked with classical and Jazz) and Virgin. Our Price had its moments, too. I even managed to get into Bath Compact Discs a few times down the years.

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                        • visualnickmos
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Yes, happy memories. On-line purchases are certainly much cheaper and downloads are instantly gratifying, but we pay the price in other ways.

                          I miss the two HMVs in Oxford Street (when they were big and well stocked with classical and Jazz) and Virgin. Our Price had its moments, too. I even managed to get into Bath Compact Discs a few times down the years.
                          ... and at one time, the store between Oxford Circus and Tott. Ct. Rd had its own special entrance to the classical dept. by way of a set of doors from the street, giving on to a carpeted stairway straight down into the classical dept, thus avoiding having to enter the main shop to reach it! Such luxury.... ! The well-spoken bearded chap who I think, was the dept. head of classical was always very helpful, as indeed were the others. If they weren't too busy, it was always pleasurable engage in 'music talk' with them... Good days, indeed. Saw Terry Waite in there once, also David Trimble...

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            #14
                            Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                            ... and at one time, the store between Oxford Circus and Tott. Ct. Rd had its own special entrance to the classical dept. by way of a set of doors from the street, giving on to a carpeted stairway straight down into the classical dept, thus avoiding having to enter the main shop to reach it! Such luxury.... ! The well-spoken bearded chap who I think, was the dept. head of classical was always very helpful, as indeed were the others. If they weren't too busy, it was always pleasurable engage in 'music talk' with them... Good days, indeed. Saw Terry Waite in there once, also David Trimble...
                            And the Bond Street end ..... with big comfy sofa/chairs in the section where they laid out various Penguin Guides, Record Review, Gramophone and other magazines and reference books to help you get what you want (before the days of the internet). Spent many an afternoon in there, then alighting to to the Hog In The Pound a few doors down, for 3/4 pints before diving down the tube and off home with a bag full of purchases!


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                            • Alain Maréchal
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1286

                              #15
                              3/4 pints? Why restrict your consumption to 75% of your purchases?

                              Regent Street Nostalgia: Village Records.

                              What was the shop in Shepherd's Market? "honestly, officer, I was just asking the lady about the parking restrictions"

                              I'd forgotten what it was like to be young and working in London.
                              Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 12-01-17, 23:06.

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