The 2016 Survey of 'Classical' Music on Radio 3

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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
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    #16
    Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
    As many as you like its quite straightforward to supply the figures. The figure for Ethel Smyth was 24. There are British composers whose R3 figures are comparable or even worse than Lambert & G Lloyd.
    Well, I noted Holbrooke's 0.

    Thank you for the Smyth.

    (This sort of statistical stuff is right up my street)

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
      Radigue 0,
      FFS

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        FFS
        Strictly speaking, IIRC, about seven seconds of her Music was played in one of the HCMF broadcasts after the announcement of her death.

        Sadly they weren't at Bates' Mill to record/broadcast the complete performance of her piece on the Monday event. :sad:
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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          • Sep 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
          The figures for ... especially Lloyd are shocking.
          Gruesome even.
          - as many as five pieces clogging up the airwaves when there's so much Music actually worth playing that wasn't broadcast at all.

          I shall write to my MP!
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Lat-Literal
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            • Aug 2015
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            #20
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            - as many as five pieces clogging up the airwaves when there's so much Music actually worth playing that wasn't broadcast at all.

            I shall write to my MP!


            Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
            As many as you like its quite straightforward to supply the figures. The figure for Ethel Smyth was 24. There are British composers whose R3 figures are comparable or even worse than Lambert & G Lloyd.
            List 3: Black and South and Central American composers - Brouwer, Carillo, Castro, Chavez, Coleridge-Taylor, Dawson, Dett, Ellington, Garcia, Gardel, Garrido Lecca, Golijov, Gomes, Guarnieri, Guirra-Peixe, Hailstork, Johnson, H, Joplin, Lamothe, Lauro, Moncayo, Nazareth, Nepomuceno, Oswald, Ponce, Price, Racine, Ramirez, Revueltas, Still, Thompson, S and White C - plus a mixture, the main reasons for which are explained below: Andriessen, Cooke, Dyson, Kalinnikov, Leifs, Mompou, Rautavaara and Rubbra.

            The Dutch Andriessen is cited by many current/modern American composers as highly influential, Leifs and Rautavaara are fairly obvious choices for an imaginative widening of Scandinavian etc output, someone on the forum noted that Kalinnikov was an obvious choice for those seeking radio friendly breadth - I agree, Mompou is surely on the up given the involvement of Hough etc and increasing numbers of comparisons/contrasts with Satie etc, and the three British composers are often mentioned on this forum - espec Rubbra.

            That is my last list - as promised.

            (Sorry I keep adding to it but that's done now)
            Last edited by Lat-Literal; 03-01-17, 22:52.

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            • EdgeleyRob
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
              The figures for........Lloyd are shocking.

              Gruesome even.

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              • EdgeleyRob
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                - as many as five pieces clogging up the airwaves when there's so much Music actually worth playing that wasn't broadcast at all.

                I shall write to my MP!
                Double

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                  • Sep 2011
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                  #23
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Strictly speaking, IIRC, about seven seconds of her Music was played in one of the HCMF broadcasts after the announcement of her death.

                    Sadly they weren't at Bates' Mill to record/broadcast the complete performance of her piece on the Monday event. :sad:
                    She isn't dead yet

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                    • EdgeleyRob
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                        • Sep 2011
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        She isn't dead yet
                        Oh boules!!!! (I'd just been reading about Pauline Oliveros, and ... ) Please ignore the first sentence of my previous-but-one post.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Oh boules!!!! (I'd just been reading about Pauline Oliveros, and ... ) Please ignore the first sentence of my previous-but-one post.


                          Oliveiros 9
                          is still woeful

                          as is the lack of Daphne Oram's music on R3

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            • Sep 2011
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


                            I did think that just one symphony by Weinberg was remarkably stingy (there were twice as many by John Marsh - I composer whose work I greatly enjoy, but even so ...).

                            And as for no RVW #7 or #9 i can only say
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                              I did think that just one symphony by Weinberg was remarkably stingy (there were twice as many by John Marsh - I composer whose work I greatly enjoy, but even so ...).

                              And as for no RVW #7 or #9 i can only say
                              Weinberg's time must surely come,too good a composer for it not to IMO.
                              What with so much of his work now being recorded I'm not sure why concert planners and the radio are slow on the uptake,I seem to remember Roehre thinking 2016 might have been the year.

                              No RVW 7 & 9 beggars belief

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                              • Suffolkcoastal
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                RVW didn't have a great year symphony wise, in fact his representation fell more heavily on shorter works than in previous years. It is the absence of Robett Simpson that really annoys me 7 pieces/chunks in 8 years and none since 2014! The Weinberg symphony was No 5 ER, and there were no complete performances of any Myaskovsky symphonies either.

                                Kalliwoda was also exceptionally disappointing, for composers such as this significant anniversaries are an opportunity to at least showcase a few of his works. His symphonies are amongst the best composed between 1830 & 1860, and personally I believe numbers 3 & 4 far superior to many better known symphonies of the period.

                                LatLiteral, I'll come back with figures you requested tomorrow evening when I get home from work.

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