The Economics Of Downloading

[jayne lee wilson]

I'm still struggling to find out where we should put posts about downloads. I thought we had a thread for that, but maybe it's moved. This seems to be in the "wrong" section - "Talking about music" - shouldn't it be in "Record Review" or a similar area? Maybe there was one "What download are you listening to now" - but searching to find a thread is sometimes like looking for styli in cornfields!

BeefOven started this one quite recently....

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?16363-What-download-have-you-bought

.... but it tends to get ignored or forgotten so you end up copying posts to New Releases or WAYListeningTo instead....

[jayne lee wilson]

Has anyone else tried to login and download from Qobuz lately? I thought I might actually try the Stockhausen "Helicopter Quartet" after all - since it's ostensibly cheap at present - under £1, and I found an intriguing Gramophone review - https://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/...string-quartet - but Firefox now reports that logging into Qobuz is not secure. While this might be OK, the economics if things were to go belly up would be distinctly unfavourable, if one's accounts got hacked because an attacker managed to misuse a password either on the Qobuz site or elsewhere.

Has anyone else noticed this, and is it a matter for concern?

Bought two albums there in the last few days and streamed regularly via Audirvana/Qobuz Hifi as well, and....here at least, all is well. I can't recall any serious problems there in the last few years at all... a rare faulty file or two, soon put right or compensated for. Even when they were looking for a buyer, downloading still worked perfectly.

EClassical and Qobuz are the best downloading sites largely because they work so quickly and efficiently. Incidentally, I just got the new Simon Holt album A Table of Noises from NMC, downloaded directly from their own site in 24/88.2, and I must say it was very fast and easy. Did it all for you really. Impressive. Will definitely use them again.

https://www.nmcrec.co.uk

The Holt album is listed as 24/44.1, but it arrived here in the aforementioned higher resolution. Which I don't mind at all...

https://www.nmcrec.co.uk/recording/table-noises

[richardfinegold]

I think you'll find you wrote it in October.

I usually find that purchasing individual tracks works out more expensive than the whole album, although if you only want say 50% of what's on offer, the individual tracks option may be marginally cheaper.

Still struggling to work out why download's are not significantly cheaper than physical media.

Date heading on the post is 1-10-16 As those of us who make proper use of the English Language know, , that would be January 10, 2016

[Richard Barrett]

Date heading on the post is 1-10-16 As those of us who make proper use of the English Language know, , that would be January 10, 2016

I believe this forum makes use of the most common international standard on date formats, not just that used in one particular country! (looks it up: oh, and the Philippines, that makes two.) Which makes me think: when dating things like files and folders on my computer, I use the year-month-day format, for obvious reasons, and I imagine this might become a de facto standard eventually, for those same obvious reasons.

I normally get my downloads from Presto, which has worked perfectly so far.

[vinteuil]

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... where possible I use roman numerals for the month; I believe there was once upon a time some kind of Geneva Convention that proposed this, but I may be mis-remembering. It removes ambiguity. Today is Wednesday 29 - iii - 2017.

[Richard Barrett]

It removes ambiguity.

True - unless you're a computer, they were never taught Roman numerals at school.

[vinteuil]

True - unless you're a computer, they were never taught Roman numerals at school.

I knew there was a fatal flaw in my system. All part of my problems with the twenty-first century.

Anyhoo, I shall continue with roman numerals - quill pens and vellum don't encounter the same problems as computers

[cloughie]

I knew there was a fatal flaw in my system. All part of my problems with the twenty-first century.

Anyhoo, I shall continue with roman numerals - quill pens and vellum don't encounter the same problems as computers

I still think of 9/11 as 11/09

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

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... where possible I use roman numerals for the month; I believe there was once upon a time some kind of Geneva Convention that proposed this, but I may be mis-remembering. It removes ambiguity. Today is Wednesday 29 - iii - 2017.

Didn't the Romans always use capitals?

[vinteuil]

Didn't the Romans always use capitals?

... but from the middle ages / renaissance minuscule forms were also used.

Wiki : "Minuscule (lower-case) letters were developed in the Middle Ages, well after the demise of the Western Roman Empire, and since that time lower-case versions of Roman numbers have also been commonly used: i, ii, iii, iv, and so on. Since the Middle Ages, a "j" has sometimes been substituted for the final "i" of a "lower-case" Roman numeral, such as "iij" for 3 or "vij" for 7. This "j" can be considered a swash variant of "i". The use of a final "j" is still used in medical prescriptions to prevent tampering with or misinterpretation of a number after it is written."

I like the j variant; I think I shall adopt it.

29 - iij - 2017

[Zucchini]

I knew there was a fatal flaw in my system. All part of my problems with the twenty-first century.

Anyhoo, I shall continue with roman numerals - quill pens and vellum don't encounter the same problems as computers

And don't forget you've an appointment with your tailor to fit that new codpiece at 15.30 ...

[Sir Velo]

And don't forget you've an appointment with your tailor to fit that new codpiece at 15.30 ...

Presumably you'll be hiding behind the arras taking a peek?

[Dave2002]

Didn't the Romans always use capitals?

I can't get the chisel feature to work on my MBP in order to work with capitals. Plus, it takes so long anyway ...... and the stone is too hard ....