Brahms Horn Trio

[richardfinegold]

I heard this music for the first time in quite a while at the Newport Rhode Island Festival on an all Brahms Chamber Music Concert last week. Upon returning home I realized I don't have this on a CD. I've got the iTunes download of the Perlman/Tuckwell/Azhkenazy recording but I can't make a copy of that for my wife who enjoyed it and wants to listen in her car. Are there any other recommendations from forumites? I can order a used copy of the aforementioned recording but might as well get another version.

[visualnickmos]

Are there any other recommendations from forumites? I can order a used copy of the aforementioned recording but might as well get another version.

Hello Richard
I have a version on Sony with

Myron Bloom - French horn
Michael Tree - violin
Rudolf Serkin - piano

Rec. 1960. It's paired with Brahms's Sextet no. 2 - different performers.....

Well worth searching for - a very enjoyable version.

On 'the river people' B00002675D

[CallMePaul]

Are there any other recommendations from forumites? I can order a used copy of the aforementioned recording but might as well get another version.

Teunis van der Zwart (Natural Horn), Isabelle Faust (Violin, played using gut strings), Alexander Melnikov (Boesendorfer Piano of 1875). This is as near as we can get to hearing the trio as written for by Brahms and to my ear finer than any version on modern instruments. Harmonia Mundi Musique d'Abord HMA 1951981.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Teunis van der Zwart (Natural Horn), Isabelle Faust (Violin, played using gut strings), Alexander Melnikov (Boesendorfer Piano of 1875). This is as near as we can get to hearing the trio as written for by Brahms and to my ear finer than any version on modern instruments. Harmonia Mundi Musique d'Abord HMA 1951981.

(excellent couplings, too.)

I don't really have many downloads, but I don't understand why you can't make a copy from your i-Tunes download, rfg (a very good version - I can understand your wife's enthusiasm for it; and it is such a wonderful piece, too).

[Stanfordian]

I heard this music for the first time in quite a while at the Newport Rhode Island Festival on an all Brahms Chamber Music Concert last week. Upon returning home I realized I don't have this on a CD. I've got the iTunes download of the Perlman/Tuckwell/Azhkenazy recording but I can't make a copy of that for my wife who enjoyed it and wants to listen in her car. Are there any other recommendations from forumites? I can order a used copy of the aforementioned recording but might as well get another version.

Hiya richardfinegold,

For my money the Brahms horn trio is a masterwork. I have several recordings of this work but personally in Brahms I tend not to plump for period-instrument accounts.

My recommendation is the account played by Arthur Grumiaux and Francis Orval and György Sebök on the 'classic' Brahms complete trios set from the Beaux Arts Trio and Arthur Grumiaux on Decca.

[EdgeleyRob]

Hi Richard.

I have Grumiaux,Orval and Sebok recommended by Stan,it's excellent.
Michael Thompson with members of the Borodin Trio on Chandos is also a fine performance.

[richardfinegold]

(excellent couplings, too.)

I don't really have many downloads, but I don't understand why you can't make a copy from your i-Tunes download, rfg (a very good version - I can understand your wife's enthusiasm for it; and it is such a wonderful piece, too).

My understanding is that iTunes blocks one from doing so with Digital Rights Management software, but I could be mistaken. The last time I tried to copy an I tunes download was eons ago on a MAcBook with a CD recording drive and I remember being frustrated in that respect. Has that changed?

[richardfinegold]

Hello Richard
I have a version on Sony with

Myron Bloom - French horn
Michael Tree - violin
Rudolf Serkin - piano

Rec. 1960. It's paired with Brahms's Sextet no. 2 - different performers.....

Well worth searching for - a very enjoyable version.

On 'the river people' B00002675D

Bloom was the first horn for Philadelphia. That sounds tempting but I didn't see that listed in Amazon

[richardfinegold]

Teunis van der Zwart (Natural Horn), Isabelle Faust (Violin, played using gut strings), Alexander Melnikov (Boesendorfer Piano of 1875). This is as near as we can get to hearing the trio as written for by Brahms and to my ear finer than any version on modern instruments. Harmonia Mundi Musique d'Abord HMA 1951981.

As I was enjoying the concert in Newport, I was wondering if Brahms had written it for the natural horn. When did the modern horn arrive? I thought it was during Beethoven's time

[visualnickmos]

Bloom was the first horn for Philadelphia. That sounds tempting but I didn't see that listed in Amazon

Type this B00002675D into the search box. Should come up..... the names of the performers are self-recommending.

[jayne lee wilson]

Why not widen your ears with one of these...(including an SACD, just for you...)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=Ligeti+Horn+trio

The BRIDGE disc was top rec for the BaL for the Brahms Trio in 2007...

[gurnemanz]

Orval/Grumiaux, also Dennis Brain with Max Salpeter (violin) and Cyril Preedy (piano) on BBC Legends (in this case that series title is surely justified).

[Hornspieler]

Orval/Grumiaux, also Dennis Brain with Max Salpeter (violin) and Cyril Preedy (piano) on BBC Legends (in this case that series title is surely justified).

I have this disk listed as Dennis Brain/Manoug Parikian/Cyril Preedy. Mistake? Surely the BBC got it right on this one?

But more important, I have Aubrey Brain with Adolf Busch and Rudolf Serkin - recorded in the mid 1930s with Aubrey playing on a three-piston narrow bore french horn with an F crook*. Aubrey was always dead set against the German wide bore rotary valved "Double" horn, as played by the Borsdoff brothers and was mortified when Dennis abandoned his Raoux piston horn (which had been found in a cupboard in Covent Garden) and adopted the wider bore rotary valve Alexander single B flat instrument.

* a sort of halfway house between the hand horn of Brahms' time and the present Double (and Triple) wide bore instruments;
with 4, 5 or even 6 rotary valves.

Feel free to send me a PM if you would like to know more.

HS

I've just checked and BBC Legends is correct.

It was the Lennox Berkeley Horn trio which was with Parikian

My apologies to all.

[umslopogaas]

I have the Mercury LP with Szigeti, Horszowski and Barrows, issued in 1960. Its something of a collectors item on vinyl, but I dont know if it made it to CD.

[gurnemanz]

discogs details of BBC Legends.

I got the Busch/Serkin/Brain via a well-priced Andromeda three CD Brahms set a few years ago. Now only download but superseded, I note, by this tempting bundle. . Complete Warner! as if poor old EMI never existed.