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  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26645

    #61
    The four Royal Schools of Music together with ABRSM have called on the European Union to restore core funding to the European Youth Orchestra.


    The four Royal Schools of Music together with ABRSM have called on the European Union to restore core funding to the European Youth Orchestra.
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Hornspieler
      Late Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1847

      #62
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      NO it's very simple
      But there seems to be a bit of a contradiction in several folk i've come across who are outraged by the demise of the EUYO and at the same time are actively campaigning for the the UK to withdraw from the EU and disconnect itself totally from all of it's schemes and programmes.
      I seem to remember that only a few years back, we had a broadcast on the Proms given by "The International Orchestra of the World"

      Not a youth orchestra, but a symphony orchestra comprising some of the principal players from all of the world's orchestras. I remember seeing that fine young oboeist from the BBC Philharmonic (Jennifer something?), playing 2nd oboe to a gentleman with a much darker complexion - then they changed places for the next piece.

      There were several players whom I recognised from previous TV transmissions of our own orchestras and I suppose that there was probably quite a bit of nudging and knurdling, but the resulting concert was most enjoyable.

      Who funded that group of performers, I wonder?

      The fact of the matter is that it is not our problem - any more than the loss of the ENO, Northern Sinfonia or London Mozart Players is Europe's problem.

      HS

      BTW I was living in Portugal when the Orchestra called "The Chamber Orchestra of Europe" was founded, based in Lisbon.

      I attended a couple of their concerts and was very impressed. It appeared to be a very good opportunity for young professionals (I got to meet a couple of British and European players who were already established as freelances in their own countries) They formed small ensembles to perform recitals and yes, they were all young, but they were not subjected to age restrictions.

      Claudio Abbado took the helm and led them forward to international recognition, but nobody who passed the age of eighteen was ever asked to leave and where this title of European Union Youth Orchestra came from, I have no idea.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26645

        #63
        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
        the Orchestra called "The Chamber Orchestra of Europe" was founded, based in Lisbon.

        ... They formed small ensembles to perform recitals and yes, they were all young, but they were not subjected to age restrictions.

        Claudio Abbado took the helm and led them forward to international recognition, but nobody who passed the age of eighteen was ever asked to leave and where this title of European Union Youth Orchestra came from, I have no idea.
        See here:



        and para 2 here:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambe...stra_of_Europe
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #64
          They weren't called The EU Youth Orchestra in 1976, surely?

          The common market youth Orchestra sounds better

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26645

            #65
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            They weren't called The EU Youth Orchestra in 1976, surely?
            I repeat...


            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            !

            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #66
              The European Community Youth Orchestra (later to become the European Union Youth Orchestra) was founded in 1976 by the late Lionel Blair ......


              EUYO - promoting an ideal for more than 35 years
              The European Community Youth Orchestra (later to become the European Union Youth Orchestra) was founded in 1976 by the late Lionel Bryer and Joy Bryer, respectively the Chairman and Secretary General of the International Youth Foundation of Great Britain, with a view to creating an Orchestra which would represent the European ideal of a community working together to achieve peace and social understanding. At the same time it was also designed to provide an invaluable professional development experience for young orchestral musicians.


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              • Hornspieler
                Late Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1847

                #67
                Have you been talking to Nigel Kennedy? "Nah see 'ere, mate!"

                Anyway, thanks for those pointers, Cali

                Anyway, the orchestra that I attended in the Algarve town of Loule in the 1980s was definitely called "The Chamber Orchestra of Europe" and they were based in Lisbon.

                Not that this helps the ENO much and whether Brexit or not, the withdrawal of funding is not likely to be affected in any way.

                Shame!

                HS

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9596

                  #68
                  The EU Baroque Orchestra still seems to be managing to keep going, (perhaps due to not being entirely dependent on EU funding?) so there are still some opportunities for young musicians from across Europe to come together and develop their skills and experience.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26645

                    #69
                    It seems that the tide has been turned and the orchestra may be saved... http://www.euyo.eu/discover/news/eu-...-to-fund-euyo/

                    Mr Lebrecht reports on it too.
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30938

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      It seems that the tide has been turned and the orchestra may be saved... http://www.euyo.eu/discover/news/eu-...-to-fund-euyo/

                      Mr Lebrecht reports on it too.
                      Good news for my MP (an ex-professional cellist) who said she would get our MEP to look into it. Nice to have an MP who can write back to you and say: "I spent four of my teenage years with the National Youth Orchestra so I know how valuable such organisations can be."

                      Caliban - did you get the video clip to work?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #71
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        ... - did you get the video clip to work?
                        If you mean that on the dreaded Lebrecht's site. It works fine for me.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30938

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          If you mean that on the dreaded Lebrecht's site. It works fine for me.
                          I'll try that one - I was using the one on the EUYO site.

                          This is explaining more fully the role of Juncker in directing them to find 'immediate solutions' getting round the general ruling on arts funding:

                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30938

                            #73
                            Email just now says a 'solution' has been found:

                            Thank you for your message regarding the European Union Youth Orchestra. The Commission had this on its political agenda yesterday and a solution was found to continue the activities of the European Union Youth Orchestra.

                            Further information can be found in the attached press release:

                            Today, the European Commission has found short and long term solutions to keep the European Union Youth Orchestra (EUYO) alive. The Orchestra has been a symbol of Europe's cultural diversity for the last 40 years.


                            On behalf of the Cabinet of Commissioner Navracsics,
                            Yours sincerely,

                            Balazs KOS
                            Assistant to the Deputy Head of Cabinet
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              If you mean that on the dreaded Lebrecht's site. It works fine for me.
                              Some rather amusing comments

                              Excellent news. I really hope it comes to fruition!
                              What can be done re the time-wasting, worthless unelected muppets in the EU Commission? Vote ‘out’ in the UK referendum and send the useless politicians and unelected pen pushers get the message.
                              Yes, what a great idea, lets make UK young musicians ineligible to play in the orchestra then ?

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30938

                                #75
                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Some rather amusing comments

                                Yes, what a great idea, lets make UK young musicians ineligible to play in the orchestra then ?
                                I liked Lebrecht's : 'What needs to be done to make these time-servers democratically accountable?' Right, we need to get them to listen … oh, they just did. Well, anyway
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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