Sir Peter Maxwell Davies RIP

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  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    #16
    Scarcely into my Harnoncourt long-live-the-music memorials, now another Big Hero gone.... for anyone who accessed this thing called Classical Music via Radio 3 in the early 1970s, Max was a terrific provocateur of listening, apprehending, thinking about what music was, is and could be... I still remember my excitement at the very first listen - the Vesalli Icones on borrowed vinyl, which I took out purely because the anatomical artwork, the dancer, the ideas in the sleevenotes really grabbed my imagination... and yet it could still be listened to as a cello-chamber-concerto - the many-layered Max with all his inexhaustible meanings! The compellingly pixie-ish mischief of his characteristic facial expression, in so many photos, and film of his dagger-sharp performances with The Fires of London, seemed wonderfully apt to the art itself!

    Then his love of wild nature, his move to Orkney, the Old Man of Hoy beyond his window, his need for silence inhabited only by nature - all these spoke to me on a very deep, instinctual level in themselves, but then the early Orkney pieces like Ave Maris Stella and the 1st Symphony with their wave-motions and birdcalls, the sheer intensity of atmosphere and expression seemed to be the music I'd been looking for beyond my obsession with "Bruckner, Mahler, Schoenberg" ....But how long I had to wait to hear those earlier masterpieces like the 2nd Taverner Fantasia or above all Worldes Blis - both of which became two of my personal musical icones themselves ....

    It's probably that earlier phase - broadly the mid-60s to the mid-70s - that I identify with most, where that sense of fiery, endlessly innovative musical flow was at its fiercest. From the épater les bourgeois of 8 Songs for a Mad King or the Missa super L'Homme Armé (playing as I write) to the 1st Symphony is some journey!

    Perhaps I got on less well with the more "neoclassical" later works like the Strathclyde Concertos - I sometimes wondered if Max hadn't been a little too concerned with writing music for the players to enjoy playing! But there were always works like the Violin Concerto - which does make a great partner with Dutilleux' L'Arbre des Songes - that seemed to exist in their own creative space, as a brilliant rapprochement of the Romantic, contemporary and neoclassical. (I wished that he'd followed up that brilliant break with his typical approach which was the 5th Symphony - but we had to wait for the 9th to find out where that might lead...)

    Like Harnoncourt, a long and wonderfully creative life, with so much of the past, present and future in the work itself. Finally, mortality seemed to suit Max's inspiration - how wonderful that this scorching life should end with two of his most beautiful, intense and personal of creative expressions - the 9th and 10th Symphonies!

    Max is dead - long live the Mad King!
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 14-03-16, 17:18.

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      #17
      The Guardian
      The former master of the Queen’s music had been suffering from leukaemia for several years


      Sir Peter Maxwell Davies RIP

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20573

        #18
        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
        The Guardian
        The former master of the Queen’s music had been suffering from leukaemia for several years


        Sir Peter Maxwell Davies RIP

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        • Richard Barrett
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          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #19
          I have fond memories of Max, having worked for him as copyist, proofreader, piano-reducer etc. in the early 1980s. On one occasion when I went along to pick up some materials from his flat in Kensington, I happened to have some of my own work with me, which he asked to take a look at, with a free composition lesson ensuing. He was a person for whom music in all its forms was endlessly fascinating, and who had strong and coherent ideas about its place in society and education. And there are for me some very powerful and memorable pieces in his output.

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          • Boilk
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 976

            #20
            R.i.p p.m-d.

            This is a greater loss than with most composers, and not just because PMD was a titan of his generation. Most composers who die in their 80s are already something of a spent force creatively, whereas Maxwell Davies was in decline physically only. Had he lived to be a centenarian one suspects that, like Elliott Carter, he would still have had much to say, such was his indefatigable creative streak. In this respect his death - unlike that of say Tippett or Boulez - has deprived the world of much that was surely yet to come. However, clocking out at Opus 334 no one can say we have been short-changed. I don't envy anyone the task of writing a book summing up such a vast and bewildering oeuvre.

            The former master of the Queen’s music had been suffering from leukaemia for several years


            Last edited by Boilk; 15-03-16, 00:53.

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            • Stanley Stewart
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1071

              #21
              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
              Anyone remember The Fires of London...red polo-necks, etc?

              RIP Max
              Indeed, yes. My first contact with Peter Maxwell Davies was in the early 80s when I was setting up a COI (Central Office of Information) documentary on the Arts in Britain and was keen to include contemporary music, rather than library footage of, say, Beethoven 5! The Fires of London sprang to mind and I acquired their SW7 phone number to make contact but they were absent on tour and 'Max' answered the phone. Such a friendly and articulate communicator in a lengthy conversation which also provided me with guidelines and several leads. Also gave me a contact where I could acquire a large print of him seated by his long-horn gramophone at his home at Hoy. Long since framed and placed above my hi-fi equipment in my living room. I often sit and look at it with affection and rather feel a heart-pang will follow in future as I recall many decades of enlightenment from his work. RIP

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              • verismissimo
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2957

                #22
                Sad to lose Peter Maxwell Davies, whose music Endymion played so well.

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  But a longish item on R4 WATO.
                  And here on PM (go to 49.30) - they had the weather and trailers early, and cleared the last 10 minutes for interview with N Kenyon and PMD playing Farewell to Stromness.

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                  • HighlandDougie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3106

                    #24
                    He probably did more for the Orkneys in putting them on the map than anyone else - and not just culturally. I saw him a few months ago at a concert in the Barbican (it might have been Simon Rattle) when he looked much more frail and drawn than a few months before that when I saw him at Edinburgh Airport. The only composer I've ever had a conversation with on the merits of different olive oils (he was once behind me in the rather long queue at Valvona and Crolla in Edinburgh) - such a delightful conversationalist. Very, very sad news.

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #25
                      And here on PM (go to 49.30) - they had the weather and trailers early, and cleared the last 10 minutes for interview with N Kenyon and PMD playing Farewell to Stromness.
                      There are some civilising influences at work! Well done R4.

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                      • Lat-Literal
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                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6983

                        #26
                        I am sorry to hear this news and have found it interesting to read other people's learned contributions. There is no secret about the limitations of my knowledge of classical music or that I have been building in the past few months on what I have known in a longer period. Along the way, I've asked myself a few questions. For example, to what extent do I wish to explore the so-called avant garde beyond the music in that category I already know? That requires a realistic assessment of my ability to get something out of it. I am not a composer or much of a musician so what I choose to listen to is all just art appreciation. And in all of the dipping in and out, one thing I have discovered is that some of the avant-garde can feel samey just as does music in any period. That might not be true for people who can fully comprehend the nuances in composition structure and wider technique.

                        So much, then, for the introductory words and on to the main point. A few names are naturally carried forward in the mind for further exploration. Being impressionable, I find that is often based on impression. My impression of PMD is that while he was undoubtedly radical and even confrontational musically, he was also broadly accessible or he could be. His softer-edged Orkney period is, without question, a contributor to that impression. Connection in music with the natural elements doesn't appear to have ever been overdone by modernism. That is possibly because of its faint hints of earlier pastoral conservatism. But where it has been attempted, as it was by PMD - Rautavaara also springs to mind - it can be of considerable appeal. In a slightly different way, I sense that there is something organic in his music as I do with Birtwistle and Crosse but not perhaps in someone like Richard Rodney Bennett. Whatever the case, I was already looking forward to exploring the music of PMD and with his passing I am sure many will show future interest in his work.

                        Peter Maxwell Davies RIP
                        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 14-03-16, 20:07.

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7737

                          #27
                          Those "Mad King Songs" might have been the first lp of contemporary music that I ever purchased, on the Nonesuch Label (at least in the States). Who was the ensemble? Fires Of London?

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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25225

                            #28
                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            Those "Mad King Songs" might have been the first lp of contemporary music that I ever purchased, on the Nonesuch Label (at least in the States). Who was the ensemble? Fires Of London?


                            CD /Record sleeves reproduced here.
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                            • LeMartinPecheur
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4717

                              #29
                              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                              Those "Mad King Songs" might have been the first lp of contemporary music that I ever purchased, on the Nonesuch Label (at least in the States). Who was the ensemble? Fires Of London?
                              Full marks rfg. It was indeed the Fires of London, on Unicorn in GB and Nonesuch in the US. (So sayeth my 1982 Penguin Guide.)

                              Still just about available in UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=sr_1_4&sr=8-4 but at these prices I'm glad I bought a copy a while back
                              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                              • EdgeleyRob
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12180

                                #30
                                So so sad.
                                Of all the recent losses well............
                                To my ears there is,in his music,a link back to Tippett,Britten,RVW and Elgar and in turn many of the lesser performed British composers that I adore,and even I think to some prog rock (maybe Yes,Genesis,Rennaisance).
                                I am not capable of proving this and I wish I could explain it better or write an essay on the subject,but I can sense something inexplicable that runs through all this music

                                RIP Sir Peter

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