Virtuoso Violinists at the BBC - 11.3.16

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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #31
    Would he [Nigel Kennedy] really like to be represented by that version of the 4 seasons, wouldn't some Elgar have been a better choice [?]

    Or his Lark Ascending; a particularly favourite version of mine

    Sadly the Bach double was not good, two ill matched players, poor recording and very dated stylistically
    Maybe they were trying to out-do each other a bit, but you can't blame a historic clip for being, er, historic. It's the way everyone played it in those days...the slow movement being almost literally half the speed of the HIPPsters. I have very happy memories of accompanying my father, a talented fiddler. He having been taught in the 1910s/20s, played in the same way, not afraid of portamenti and with a different sort of vibrato. Heiffetz and Oistrakh were on all our LPs at home. Menuhin too.

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    • verismissimo
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2957

      #32
      Originally posted by Tony View Post
      RUDOLF SCHWARZ, one of the finest 'musician conductors' ( as opposed to 'showman conductors') I've ever been privileged to play for. ...
      He was at various times Principal conductor of the CBSO, Bournemouth S.O., BBC SO, and Northern Sinfonia...
      The first professional orchestral concert I ever attended: CBSO under Schwarz at Uppingham in 1957. But what did they play?

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      • verismissimo
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        #33
        Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
        Milstein played immaculately of course but dreadful sound quality...
        The high point for me of the whole programme. A real aristocrat of the fiddle.

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        • mikealdren
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1195

          #34
          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
          Maybe they were trying to out-do each other a bit, but you can't blame a historic clip for being, er, historic. It's the way everyone played it in those days...the slow movement being almost literally half the speed of the HIPPsters.
          Yes, I agree entirely, it was the mismatched playing that really failed, the Oistrakhs together would have been better but I suppose they wanted to show Menuhin and it was rather special that they became friends.

          Since the previous post I keep thinking of ommisions, Kogan's another!

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #35
            Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
            Kennedy ... surely not great

            Szerying ... wasn't a truly great player.

            I don't really agree about the Menuhin either,

            Milstein ... dreadful sound quality.

            Vengerov ... In and out of focus, shots from all angles and usually the wrong one for the music, terrible!

            ... the Bach double was not good, two ill matched players, poor recording and very dated stylistically as was Stern's Mozart.
            ... but apart from that ...
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • mikealdren
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1195

              #36
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              ... but apart from that ...
              Well yes.......... I really enjoyed DON's programme on pianists and had high hopes for the companion programme. With the archive available to the BBC, it was really not good, I was very disappointed.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #37
                Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                Well yes.......... I really enjoyed DON's programme on pianists and had high hopes for the companion programme. With the archive available to the BBC, it was really not good, I was very disappointed.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ardcarp
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11102

                  #38
                  I suppose DON (though a very able pianist) is known mainly as a communicator; insightful, intelligent, pithy, sometimes witty. I wonder if there is a violinist equivalent who could have been asked to 'front' the progrmme? Suggestions?

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30205

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                    I suppose DON (though a very able pianist) is known mainly as a communicator; insightful, intelligent, pithy, sometimes witty. I wonder if there is a violinist equivalent who could have been asked to 'front' the progrmme? Suggestions?
                    Two points: one is that pianists are generally more 'versatile' than violinists (is that true?), but more important (perhaps!?) is that a 60-something presenter/musician is likely to have a more extensive knowledge than a 20-something one.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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