Hymnen

[Beef Oven!]

NICE !!!!

I didn't think you'd see my post!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Wow! What a terrific piece! Greatly enjoyed that, and the Worby introductions and interviews - brilliant start to the year.

(The "Outro" was a bit "abrupt", crashing into the final sounds of the work like somebody dropping a dustbin lid. But an inspiring and invigorating concert - I had wondered if I'd manage the whole two-and-a-half hours, but the time surfed on these haunting, eerie sounds. Brought back a whole decade of Musical encounters, but renewed and refreshed for the new Century/millennium. A pity that the versions with ensemble seem to have been "withdrawn" - but the purely electronic/taped sounds worked magnificently on their own and in their own terms. Terrific piece!)

[umslopogaas]

Alas, I didnt hear most of it, but did catch the last fifteen minutes. Wonderful. Is anyone going to issue a recording?

[oddoneout]

I listened to most of 1, beginning of 2 and end of 3(dinner duties intervened) and all of 4. Sorry folks but it left me largely unmoved, except when the sustained high pitched sounds caused physical discomfort. For the most part it seemed to me to be a sound collage rather than music, but I didn't feel the need to turn it off after a few minutes, unlike several other modern day composers I can think of. It is a long old listen though.

[Beef Oven!]

Alas, I didnt hear most of it, but did catch the last fifteen minutes. Wonderful. Is anyone going to issue a recording?

I've taken in most of it, off and on this evening. Marvellous music, especially with the orchestra.

I don't know if this version with orchestra is available, but the version for instrumentalists is available here.

[Bryn]

Alas, I didnt hear most of it, but did catch the last fifteen minutes. Wonderful. Is anyone going to issue a recording?

Easy enough to catch in 320kbps AAC-LC via the iPlayer. However, a 4 channel audio DVD (DVDV format) would be welcome. I just wonder whether the Stockhausen Verlag is up to/for it.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

For the most part it seemed to me to be a sound collage rather than music, but I didn't feel the need to turn it off after a few minutes, unlike several other modern day composers I can think of.

Not sure why you think that "a sound collage" is something different from "Music", odd1 - but the work's magic at least made such an impression that it removed any desire to switch off Sounds like a good start!

It is a long old listen though.

- nobody can complain that Stockhausen wasn't generous!

[oddoneout]

Not sure why you think that "a sound collage" is something different from "Music",

Oh, that'll be down to my narrow minded view of what constitutes music......

[Bryn]

Oh, that'll be down to my narrow minded view of what constitutes music......

I rather like the way Bach, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven et al made collages of different notes, instruments, voices, etc. to create what they knew as music too.

As the sainted J.C., put it, "Happy New Ears".

[Beef Oven!]

I've taken in most of it, off and on this evening. Marvellous music, especially with the orchestra.

I don't know if this version with orchestra is available, but the version for instrumentalists is available here.

Have now listened to all parts plus the commentary.

Awesome! Marvellous sounds, wonderful music!

Don't miss this musical adventure!

[MrGongGong]

I rather like the way Bach, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven et al made collages of different notes, instruments, voices, etc. to create what they knew as music too.

As the sainted J.C., put it, "Happy New Ears".

"Our ears are now in excellent condition"

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

"Our ears are now in excellent condition"

Looking forward to reading your responses in the light of your #10 (point 2), MrGG

[MrGongGong]

Looking forward to reading your responses in the light of your #10 (point 2), MrGG

Having heard last nights broadcast i've somewhat changed my mind about the piece.
I still do think that the use of national anthems as examples of universal (or universally recognisable?) music is somewhat naive and superficial but I was really drawn into the whole world of the piece.
The section with orchestra and 'tape' was particularly effective as was much of Region 4.
Very much a period piece though IMV without contextualisation i'm not sure how well it would work?

[Quarky]

..... so, in the style of Radio 3, would anyone like to give me 5 (or more) reasons to listen to the New Year's Day, apparently rare*, broadcast of Stockhausen's Hymnen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06sb9lj

* one reason would I suppose be that rarity

1. Does not require initiation into the mysteries of serial composition to enjoy it;
2. One has to marvel at the skill of the electrical engineering, tape splicing, filtering, mixing to produce a vast panorama of sound effects - although it sounds curiously retro and Doctor Who-ish in this digital laptop age;
3. The Beatles were inspired to write the composition "nine";
4. (relatively) easy listening
5. Good Fun.

[MrGongGong]

3. The Beatles were inspired to write the composition "nine";

I'm always slightly (only slightly mind you!) irritated about how The Beatles are frequently brought into items about Stockhausen as if we should somehow listen to his music because they liked it, were influenced by it and "everyone likes the Beatles" so it must be good....

I don't think it's always necessary (and that means YOU too Worby in the Guardian).

New Year Old Music ..... (it's not "new" any more)

BUT, having said that more of this please.

"Nice" to hear Rolf on last night, he always has insightful things to say IMV.