Mr. Frank Sinatra. 100 years on...

[doversoul1]

Originally Posted by ahinton
A minor actor and a limited artist as a singer, what he achieved within those limitations was, I think, truly remarkable.

Unless you said this in a particular context, I think you are mistaken here. Unlike some/ many of today’s pop singers, Sinatra was not marketed. It was his singing that brought him to where he was. Also, back in 1950s they didn’t give away an Academy Award to celebrities (I don’t know if they do today). You may not like him as a person or his singing but admitting that Sinatra was a great singer and a good actor (when he was good) does not make you look less insightful.

[cloughie]

I think one of the worst aspects of the Sinatra 100 is the Sinatra impersonator singing along to backing tracks - buskers, pub acts and the like, or that dreadful Prom this year

[cloughie]

Unless you said this in a particular context, I think you are mistaken here. Unlike some/ many of today’s pop singers, Sinatra was not marketed. It was his singing that brought him to where he was. Also, back in 1950s they didn’t give away an Academy Award to celebrities (I don’t know if they do today). You may not like him as a person or his singing but admitting that Sinatra was a great singer and a good actor (when he was good) does not make you look less insightful.

[clive heath]

and then.....
"The Joker is Wild" my mum took me to see this in Chippenham in the days where there were those certificates as opposed to guidelines
"The Manchurian Candidate" by then, 1962, I was old enough.........
"On the Town" Bernstein
"High Society" Cole Porter , well, did you evah?
"Pal Joey" Rodgers and Hart from the "book" by John O'Hara (who also was the source for "Butterfield 8")

and there are more I may not have seen which probably do not seriously detract from a fine record as a film actor.

[ahinton]

Unless you said this in a particular context, I think you are mistaken here. Unlike some/ many of today’s pop singers, Sinatra was not marketed. It was his singing that brought him to where he was. Also, back in 1950s they didn’t give away an Academy Award to celebrities (I don’t know if they do today). You may not like him as a person or his singing but admitting that Sinatra was a great singer and a good actor (when he was good) does not make you look less insightful.

I think that you partly misunderstand and that we broadly agree. I have much admiration for his particular work as a singer, something for which I believe he had greater gifts than he did for acting - and he was most fastidious about how he went about what he did.

[ahinton]

Gogetyourbowel(s)irrigated,please

That's not a Sinatra hit, is it? If it is, it has previously escaped me.

It's surely obvious that the respective political outlooks of Reginald Goodall and Alan Bush were nothing if not at the very opposite ends of a spectrum of viewpoint; each nevertheless had much to offer as a musician, as I have no doubt you would agree.

[BBMmk2]

With concerts like last seasons Proms, put on, you would think that Sinatra wrote all the songs!

[clive heath]

Incidentally, "The Joker is Wild" b/w 1957, the story of the comedian Joe E. Lewis, is on the youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfEX9Z4NkCM

3½ stars on IMDb

[Lat-Literal]

Sinatra - I say yes and the key word is intonation. No copyist can do it.

[cloughie]

With concerts like last seasons Proms, put on, you would think that Sinatra wrote all the songs!

No bbm, I would think that other singers were unable to cover songs which Sinatra almost made his own but that the orchestra made a very good job of the Riddle and May arrangements.

[cloughie]

Sinatra - I say yes and the key word is intonation. No copyist can do it.

[Beef Oven!]

Sinatra - I say yes and the key word is intonation. No copyist can do it.

[NatBalance]

What does your audiologist say?

Uh?

[johncorrigan]

or that dreadful Prom this year

Truly awful - they dress a guy in a fancy suit and think that's enough to make him Frank.

[MrGongGong]

Truly awful - they dress a guy in a fancy suit and think that's enough to make him Frank.

Without the head it's never convincing IMV