Shoot your idols - Adele at the Beeb
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As anticipated, the new Adele album seems to have received a lot of publicity in the Sunday newspapers. The Express's review was gushy in it's praise but there was a really good article in the Telegraph concerning the award of the Mercury prize and how this competition has now been effectively side-lined by the BBC who effectively run the competition. In my opinion, it was a really good piece of journalism insofar that it made recognition that this was a competition established to promote the kind of pop music that it's lofty panel of judges deemed the public should be paying attention to as opposed to more popular and commercial artistswho should be shunned. Of course, the prize is almost notorious for the fact that the recipients tend to fade back in to obscurity pretty soon afterwards. In a cutting conclusion, the journalist suggested that most music fans will remain ignorant of the Mercury nominees and will be more likely to be checking out Adele. This reinforced the earlier comment on this thread which mentioned the publicity in Tesco that implied everyone should be listening to this disc. All in all, this only serves to make me hate her crock of the proverbial records even more. More this anodyne should be discouraged and the fact that she has apparently ripped off an old Tom Waits tune makes me think the her audience probably do not have the nous to explore anything musical other than what is shoved under their uncritical noses.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... o Julie Driscoll! Aches from the past!! My first serious crush, circa 1966 - me aet: 14.... :swoon emoticon:
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
(BTW if you were 14 in 1966, that means I'm 8 years older than you. I was 22 and playing once a fortnight at the Marquee! So a little more respect in future, if you please. )
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Originally posted by verismissimo View PostAnd we thought Rod the Mod had a future, vints...
(BTW if you were 14 in 1966, that means I'm 8 years older than you. I was 22 and playing once a fortnight at the Marquee! So a little more respect in future, if you please. )
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostWhat instrument do/did you play? We might *even* be able to figure out who you are.
It was at the Marquee, on stage, that I decided that a life in rock'n'roll would be... boring! Seeing the young Eric Slowhand play sealed it for me. I realised that if I lived to 110, I'd never have that skill or that talent...
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostNo I don't know who Maxwell Hutchinson is either.
In what respect are you referring to him? Who he is - or who he is on the forum?
He played the Marquee a lot in his youth and is on the axis of music and maths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Hutchinson
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostBack on topic - in Sainsbury's - over the tannoy a plug to buy Adele's CD - having seen a poster of her miserable looking face I thought where is the incentive. Is there no end to the hype?Last edited by teamsaint; 25-11-15, 22:27.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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After last night's disaster as the Grammys, it seemed appropriate to resurrect this thread.
I find it distasteful that Adele scooped so many awards last night and it seemed to impress upon me the idea that this has more to do with people being lazy in not wanting to explore other types of music than it did with any musical talent Adele may have. The "botched" live singing was brushed aside with an expletive which , rather than being offensive, just seemed to underscore her lack of real quality. I am not opposed to pop singers and it is only correct that genuine talent like Prince was lauded last night yet Adele's rise to fame and fortune seems all out of proportion with her ability.
I did not look too avidly at the nominations and even felt that the jazz selections were pretty inspired especially with so many great records being released. In the pop field, I have recently enjoyed Michael Kawinuka's last album which is pretty much perfect. However, Adele represents a decidedly bland response and an unprofessional one at that.
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There's a movie called 'Kill Your Friends' which, whilst having very crass moments, makes very valid points about the popular music culture. There's a scene where the movie's anti-hero, a ruthless A&R man, makes a speech about how having TALENT has nothing to go with being a successful pop star. What's really important is AMBITION. Getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning to swim through a crocodile infested river to appear for one minute on a Saturday morning children's programme is much more important than mere talent.
There's another very telling scene where the anti-hero says one thing to a potential signing whilst, in his head, he's telling them that the record company will defraud and cheat them out of whatever they'll get away with. It's a good movie with extremely black humour and seems an accurate depiction of the 'music scene'.Last edited by pastoralguy; 13-02-17, 19:50.
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Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View PostAfter last night's disaster as the Grammys, it seemed appropriate to resurrect this thread.
I find it distasteful that Adele scooped so many awards last night and it seemed to impress upon me the idea that this has more to do with people being lazy in not wanting to explore other types of music than it did with any musical talent Adele may have. The "botched" live singing was brushed aside with an expletive which , rather than being offensive, just seemed to underscore her lack of real quality. I am not opposed to pop singers and it is only correct that genuine talent like Prince was lauded last night yet Adele's rise to fame and fortune seems all out of proportion with her ability.
I did not look too avidly at the nominations and even felt that the jazz selections were pretty inspired especially with so many great records being released. In the pop field, I have recently enjoyed Michael Kawinuka's last album which is pretty much perfect. However, Adele represents a decidedly bland response and an unprofessional one at that.
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