The Tyranny of Pop Music

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  • Maclintick
    Full Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1065

    Apologies for getting back on topic, but my main beef re Scruton’s “Point of View” was that it was boringly unoriginal & intellectually lazy, repeating familiar old tropes decrying aural pollution which have been around longer than “muzak” itself, & containing little original thought. Much more entertaining rants from across the pond.



    Or indeed this gentler very English version from our own ubiquitous cause-celeb-ers



    How sad for the great public philosopher RS to languish behind the curve, panting to catch up with Fry & Lumley. I search for adjectives -- shaming ? ignominious ?

    On a more serious note, Scruton’s espousal of practical music education as a solution to the problem of an aurally apathetic & ignorant public is extremely hypocritical given his track record as one of Mrs. Thatcher’s cheerleaders in the 80s, when she removed the obligation for County Councils to ring-fence money for County Music Services, so that instrumental tuition increasingly became the preserve of the privately-educated. Now we’re having to import “Sistema”-type initiatives to repair the damage.

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    • P. G. Tipps
      Full Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 2978

      Anything that Mr Fry and/or Ms Lumley give their names to, not to mention John Humphrys (whom, of course, I just have), will be given very short shrift by those wisely suspicious of celebrity bandwagons.

      If nothing else, Mr Scruton has the distinct air of credibility and sincerity, his views wholly unimbued with media jargon and institutionalised political-correctness.

      Refreshing, and, for at least one forum member, very welcome indeed!

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        Did you not mean to say:
        Mr Scruton has no distinct air of credibility and sincerity, his views wholly imbued with media jargon and institutionalised political-correctness?

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post

          If nothing else, Mr Scruton has the distinct air of credibility and sincerity, his views wholly unimbued with media jargon and institutionalised political-correctness.
          And the prize for gullible buffoon of the day goes to M. Singe

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16122

            Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
            Apologies for getting back on topic, but my main beef re Scruton’s “Point of View” was that it was boringly unoriginal & intellectually lazy, repeating familiar old tropes decrying aural pollution which have been around longer than “muzak” itself, & containing little original thought. Much more entertaining rants from across the pond.



            Or indeed this gentler very English version from our own ubiquitous cause-celeb-ers



            How sad for the great public philosopher RS to languish behind the curve, panting to catch up with Fry & Lumley. I search for adjectives -- shaming ? ignominious ?

            On a more serious note, Scruton’s espousal of practical music education as a solution to the problem of an aurally apathetic & ignorant public is extremely hypocritical given his track record as one of Mrs. Thatcher’s cheerleaders in the 80s, when she removed the obligation for County Councils to ring-fence money for County Music Services, so that instrumental tuition increasingly became the preserve of the privately-educated. Now we’re having to import “Sistema”-type initiatives to repair the damage.
            I thought that there was a war developing in Paris. Got the wrong city there, evidently...

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
              Now we’re having to import “Sistema”-type initiatives to repair the damage.


              Don't get me started

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              • ahinton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16122

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                Don't get me started
                Why not? Why shouldn't you get "started"? Come one, Mr Two-Tams - go for it!

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                • doversoul1
                  Ex Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7132

                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                  Don't get me started
                  Just ignore it and watch your blood pressure.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    Why not? Why shouldn't you get "started"? Come one, Mr Two-Tams - go for it!
                    Far too niche and off topic I think.

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16122

                      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                      Just ignore it and watch your blood pressure.
                      Mais non! Go for it but ensure that you do all that you reasonably can to control your blood pressure the while!
                      Last edited by ahinton; 17-11-15, 21:56.

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16122

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Far too niche and off topic I think.
                        Why do you think that?

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                          Don't get me started
                          It is boringly unoriginal & intellectually lazy, repeating familiar old tropes decrying Maggie Thatcher for everything under the sun.

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                          • doversoul1
                            Ex Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7132

                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            Why do you think that?
                            Because out Natty’s original question was about the volume knob.

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              It is boringly unoriginal & intellectually lazy, repeating familiar old tropes decrying Maggie Thatcher for everything under the sun.
                              You can leave your sad sexual fantasies out of this matey.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                                Because out Natty’s original question was about the volume knob.
                                So it does suggest the question
                                WHO is the "volume knob"?

                                Who was the person who used to rant about this in the past?
                                Last edited by MrGongGong; 17-11-15, 21:44. Reason: An attempt to avoid pedantry

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