The Tyranny of Pop Music

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  • P. G. Tipps
    Full Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 2978

    Originally posted by doversoul View Post
    Would your Good Professor had no objections if the great works of classical music were played to a helpless public via 'piped' transmission?
    Most certainly I cannot speak for the Good Professor & Great Philosopher but personally I would prefer the Golden Silence alluded to earlier.

    If classical music were to replace Raucous Noise it would very likely turn out to be 'wall-to-wall' Brahms, which some might well consider to be a bit like going from Frying Pan to Fire ... ?

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post


      I used to know a German jazz bass player who used a vibrator... on his instrument. He told audiences it was a battery-operated cocktail mixer, but the fact that it wasn't was made clear by its absence of any "fan" at the application end. It definitely affected its acoustic characteristics, sounding positively intimate through speakers when applied.
      Bill is the chap who set fire to the harpsichord on the beach

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
        Professor Scruton's talk may well have appeared 'stupid' and 'hopelessly confused'to you and 'many people', madam, but, mercifully, there will always be the relative few who will have had little trouble in grasping what the right-thinking gentleman said so lucidly.

        The good professor, I'm sure, does not object to consenting 'adults' listening to any sort of noise and raucous rubbish in the privacy of their own homes as long, of course, the abominable sounds don't terrify one's horses and neighbours.

        The celebrated philosopher was heard rightly bewailing the cruel infliction of such abominable sounds on a helpless public via 'piped' transmission. The only place I have ever encountered sounds of a somewhat more benign nature is at my excellent local doctoress's surgery, though she does seem to be inordinately attracted to one particular piano concerto by Rachmaninov. Bruckner's Ninth never seems to be on her 'soothing classics' menu. However credit where credit is due, one must not be too churlish when faced with the likely and more widespread piped-noise alternative. A very golden and natural silence is rarely encountered these days.

        Professor Scruton bravely speaks out against the enforced Tyranny of Pop Music in public places, and thereby champions the shockingly discriminated-against, intelligent minority of the populace.
        His voice, however lonely, must be heard crying loud and clear in this tragic wilderness of the figuratively "deaf and dumb" ...
        I'm assuming this is a work of satire?
        Self-parody.

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        • gurnemanz
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7382

          Originally posted by jean View Post
          Self-parody.
          Surely a spoof.

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            And today he takes on dancing



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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37641

              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              And today he takes on dancing



              What a jerk!

              There's nothing new in what he says; my father was saying exactly the same stuff 50 years ago. To which my reply was that ballroom dancing, with all that clinging, was positively indecent. And I still hold to that woman... I mean view.

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9162

                I can't see why he bothers. As noted above there isn't really anything new in what he says, and he lacks the ability to be entertaining about his dislike.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37641

                  And another thing: you can't be an apologist for post-Thatcherite capitalism, yet deplore what it does to culture.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25204

                    There is always the unfashionable option of thinking for oneself.





                    Or 24/7 football,if that doesnt appeal.....
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Quarky
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2657

                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      And today he takes on dancing



                      may be Contact Improv would be more of interest to Prof. Scruton?:

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37641

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        There is always the unfashionable option of thinking for oneself.
                        All this dancing in my head really does my legs in.

                        Or 24/7 football,if that doesnt appeal.....
                        The neighbours would complain. Besides, it would take too many tanners in the meter, just keeping the floodlights and the Christmas lights going.

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                        • NatBalance
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                          • Oct 2015
                          • 257

                          Scruton quote "The decay of manners that we have seen in recent times is to a large extent a result of the loss of withness and the rise of atness in its stead".

                          Mmmm, well, there does appear to beless manners on forums, and on the roads. Whether manners are worse in general now than in the past I don't know but I have noticed that manners tend to degrade when folks are separated from each other, like in cars or on forums.

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                          • NatBalance
                            Full Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 257

                            Scruton quote "The decay of manners that we have seen in recent times is to a large extent a result of the loss of withness and the rise of atness in its stead".

                            Mmmm, well, there does appear to be less manners on forums, and on the roads. Whether manners are worse in general now than in the past I don't know but I have noticed that manners tend to degrade when folks are separated from each other, like in cars or on forums.

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              Originally posted by NatBalance View Post
                              Scruton quote "The decay of manners that we have seen in recent times is to a large extent a result of the loss of withness and the rise of atness in its stead".

                              Mmmm, well, there does appear to be less manners on forums, and on the roads. Whether manners are worse in general now than in the past I don't know but I have noticed that manners tend to degrade when folks are separated from each other, like in cars or on forums.
                              Agreed. People don't think they're gonna get a spank in the earhole when they're locked in their car!!

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                Originally posted by NatBalance View Post
                                Scruton quote "The decay of manners that we have seen in recent times is to a large extent a result of the loss of withness and the rise of atness in its stead".
                                .
                                More 'received wisdom' from this 'top philosopher'?

                                I wonder if he would ask for evidence if one of his unfortunate students wrote that?

                                He appears to make the same fundamental mistake with dance that he does with music.

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