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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #31
    There's plenty of brit music out there that be most suitable
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22127

      #32
      By the time you came on the receiving end the problems had been long entrenched, however. Right now I'm re-watching the wonderful TV series of 1996 "Our Friends in the North", which I would recommend anyone to to help refresh memories of what had been going on in high places since the 1960s at least, giving the accurate picture of the ways in which it all unfolded and the corrupted structures and people, though fictionalised, involved.[/QUOTE]

      ...and when we hear of cabinet papers in the 80s where serious suggestions were made to leave Liverpool to wither - this was the era in which greed and the wealth gap really took hold.

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      • Lat-Literal
        Guest
        • Aug 2015
        • 6983

        #33
        Originally posted by Tony View Post
        Many thanks for a wonderful post, L-L!
        Thank you Tony for your kind comments.

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        That's OK - lots more people probably do than are prepared openly to admit it, Lat. I only get the thing because at least the Legion are doing something on behalf of squaddies where the state is failing disgracefully at taking care of them.

        By the time you came on the receiving end the problems had been long entrenched, however. Right now I'm re-watching the wonderful TV series of 1996 "Our Friends in the North", which I would recommend anyone to to help refresh memories of what had been going on in high places since the 1960s at least, giving the accurate picture of the ways in which it all unfolded and the corrupted structures and people, though fictionalised, involved.
        That is very true.

        I was shielded from the negative aspects of the 1960s and have asked myself in recent years how there ever was a significant political strand in me. My parents were in the "we're not especially interested in politics" category which I still find bizarre given the Today programme was required to be a member of our family. The answers are shockingly banal - hippy lyrics in songs about "changing the world", the excitement of liberals emerging from a helicopter on a Devon beach and not one but two general elections during 1974.

        Those elections introduced a new range of statistics and lists to enjoy along with ones pertaining to music and sport. And as they were constantly in the news, they were a bombardment which only a zombie could fail to take in, even if aged 12. Later, one finds what feels like a natural position - "support for the underdog" - and subsequently with selected historical reference - constructs some sort of a justification. "Yes, these people rather than those people were/are kindlier and they made life better for many of us".

        To really think of it all now, the principal roots were essentially perceptions of parents-and-child and parents-and-their-parents writ large as some sort of antidote to the tougher complexities encountered in wider daily life. One decade later and beyond it, study and greater ability for objectivity helped to illustrate that "everywhere" has its grey areas. Whatever the evidence of there being bad rather than good, it was decades before in any understanding of political greys I viewed those not as light shades but distinctly dark.

        Direct impacts change instincts!

        And I'm now "Post-Political"!
        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-11-15, 13:19.

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        • NatBalance
          Full Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 257

          #34
          Some great choices here. This is what I was doing yesterday, but not on these bells:-

          Half-muffled Grandsire Caters for remembrance on the 32cwt. C# Taylor ten at All Saints Maidstone(Some annoying sound distortion unfortunately)


          The sound of half muffled bells is one of the most evocative sounds I know, and one that I feel gives respect to those who risked and gave their lives for us.

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7389

            #35
            This always gets me. Here's to Dickie A

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              #36
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              There's plenty of brit music out there that be most suitable
              One of the reasons why I dislike the institutionalised 'Remembrance' thing. It's only recently that it's started to recognise that there were 'non-brits' fighting with the 'brits'. Still some way off from remembering that there were husbands, sons, brothers on all sides who died because they were told to.

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              • Mary Chambers
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1963

                #37
                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                One of the reasons why I dislike the institutionalised 'Remembrance' thing. It's only recently that it's started to recognise that there were 'non-brits' fighting with the 'brits'. Still some way off from remembering that there were husbands, sons, brothers on all sides who died because they were told to.
                Yes. I will start to support it when it remembers all dead, including civilians, of all sides. I dislike the nationalistic military nature of the commemorations.

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3610

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                  Yes. I will start to support it when it remembers all dead, including civilians, of all sides. I dislike the nationalistic military nature of the commemorations.
                  I echo your comments, here.
                  Also, I don't like the way that religion is the core of the commemoration - more particularly that is has become yet another "Church of England" show. I cannot see what religion has to do with it.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    One of the reasons why I dislike the institutionalised 'Remembrance' thing. It's only recently that it's started to recognise that there were 'non-brits' fighting with the 'brits'. Still some way off from remembering that there were husbands, sons, brothers on all sides who died because they were told to.
                    YES

                    Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                    Yes. I will start to support it when it remembers all dead, including civilians, of all sides. I dislike the nationalistic military nature of the commemorations.
                    YES

                    Originally posted by teamsaint
                    our governments also have a nasty habit of supporting official Remembrance, whilst encouraging arms sales all over the world.
                    That seems to me to be pretty big problem.
                    YES

                    Click here to read the full report; My Name is Legion: The British Legion and the Control of Remembrance Published by Veterans for Peace, 5 November 2015 With its links to the arms trade, increasin…


                    Having an arms manufacturer as "sponsor" is totally despicable and shows sick contempt for those who have suffered.

                    As the Telegraph noted, “a decision by British defence manufacturer BAE Systems to sponsor this year’s Poppy Day has been likened to ‘King Herod sponsoring a special day reserved to prevent child cruelty’”.

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      There's plenty of brit music out there that be most suitable
                      True, and I tend to go for British works, but it must be remembered that Remembrance Day is to commemorate the contribution of British and Commonwealth military and civilian servicemen and women in the two World Wars and later conflicts, so we should try to consider Commonwealth composers, too.
                      Last edited by Beef Oven!; 10-11-15, 09:06. Reason: capital 'D' in Day!

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25210

                        #41
                        in response to Gongers' #40, the company that I work for did a piece of commercial work with the RBL in very recent times.

                        The behaviour during that work of the RBL was distinctly unimpressive, sadly.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Pabmusic
                          Full Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          True, and I tend to go for British works, but it must be remembered that Remembrance Day is to commemorate the contribution of British and Commonwealth military and civilian servicemen and women in the two World Wars and later conflicts, so we should try to consider Commonwealth composers, too.
                          Yes. British Empire and Dominions, actually (if we're talking about the two world wars).

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #43
                            I suppose it the Patriotism I feel for my country but we must not forget the multitudes of the Commonwealth populace who came to help.
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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