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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18025

    #16
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    Nine posts already and no one has yet mentioned Mozart's String Quintet or Chopin's First Ballade or a certain work for solo violin by Bach in that key...

    OK, twelve of them, then...
    Oops!

    Not everything is instrumental - Purcell Magnificat in G minor

    Also G minor Chacony

    19th Century - Weber Trio for flute, cello and piano, Op 63.

    20th Century - Shostakovich Piano Quintet, Op 57.

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #17
      I may have posted this before, but when I and Mrs A were music students, there was a G-minor bird (as we called it....I think it may have been a starling?) which used to whistle the opening theme of Mozart's 40h outside our flat in the mornings. It tweeted approximately in the right key too.

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      • Pabmusic
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 5537

        #18
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Me too!...
        It's quite a 'natural' key for strings and woodwind. It has C, G, A and D, which are all open strings and (esp. in baroque and classical, the E-flat is often raised to E, to give another open string). Even natural horns and trumpets could contribute, esp. if pairs in B-flat and F were used.

        ...I echo ahinton's Mozart Quintet.
        I tend to echo Night on a Bare Mountain if I'm struck hard enough.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25210

          #19
          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
          I may have posted this before, but when I and Mrs A were music students, there was a G-minor bird (as we called it....I think it may have been a starling?) which used to whistle the opening theme of Mozart's 40h outside our flat in the mornings. It tweeted approximately in the right key too.
          AT LAST !!!

          I have been going on about bird song in this work for some time now, finally some corroboration.
          Once you have noticed it, bird song seems an important feature of the symphony.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #20
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            AT LAST !!!

            I have been going on about bird song in this work for some time now, finally some corroboration.
            Once you have noticed it, bird song seems an important feature of the symphony.

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18025

              #21
              Tartini: Devil's Trill sonata

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              • Roehre

                #22
                there is quite a number of cello concertos in g-minor:

                Bax,
                Kabalevsky 1,
                DSCH 2;
                Prokofiev Concertino op.132,
                Dvorak rondo op.94
                Röntgen 2

                as well as cello sonatas:

                Rachmaninov
                Ireland
                Chopin
                Busoni
                Reger 2
                Fauré 2
                Beethoven 2

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                  I may have posted this before, but when I and Mrs A were music students, there was a G-minor bird (as we called it....I think it may have been a starling?) which used to whistle the opening theme of Mozart's 40h outside our flat in the mornings. It tweeted approximately in the right key too.
                  Should've been featured on Breakfast, then...

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16123

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                    there is quite a number of cello concertos in g-minor:

                    Bax,
                    Kabalevsky 1,
                    DSCH 2;
                    Prokofiev Concertino op.132,
                    Dvorak rondo op.94
                    Röntgen 2

                    as well as cello sonatas:

                    Rachmaninov
                    Ireland
                    Chopin
                    Busoni
                    Reger 2
                    Fauré 2
                    Beethoven 2
                    The Busoni is his Serenata, surely? I don't think that he composed a sonata for cello and piano as such...

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                    • Roehre

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                      The Busoni is his Serenata, surely? I don't think that he composed a sonata for cello and piano as such...
                      We are talking about the same piece, the Serenata per Violoncello e Pianoforte opus 34 K.196, which sometimes (by Capriccio e.g.) is called Sonata

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                        Ever since the days of trying to play the guitar, I have been convinced that G minor is the "main sound for me". Since 2010, I have questioned this assumption, not least on the basis that it's instinctive and uninformed. I'd welcome discussion on this point with reference to any music you like. I don't mind if what is brought forward is in its support or not.
                        Is it the physicality of playing in that key on the guitar?
                        or the actual sound?

                        and would the "G minor-ness" be diminished if you tuned to A=432 or A=452 etc etc

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                        • Lat-Literal
                          Guest
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 6983

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          Is it the physicality of playing in that key on the guitar?
                          or the actual sound?

                          and would the "G minor-ness" be diminished if you tuned to A=432 or A=452 etc etc
                          The sound. And it seemed to be a natural starting point when having grandiose ideas about being able to compose. There are some terrific posts on this thread - all of them - for which many thanks and I look forward to more suggestions. But what I am also wondering is if there is any established opinion about its "colour" and its quality emotionally. I'd have thought "sweet melancholy" or perhaps not melancholy as such but nuance. However, Mozart's 40th doesn't say those things to me. Am I in the wrong ball park here? Maybe it isn't possible to describe it in specific terms? If it isn't, what am I not comprehending? And if it is, are there recordings on your lists that would, together, convey a certain air?
                          Last edited by Lat-Literal; 23-10-15, 12:23.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                            The sound. And it seemed to be natural starting point when having grandiose ideas about being able to compose. There are some really terrific posts on this thread - all of them - for which many thanks and I look forward to more suggestions. But what is also in my mind is some questioning about any established opinion about its "colour" and its quality emotionally. I would have thought "sweet melancholy" or perhaps not melancholy as such but nuance. However, Mozart's 40th doesn't say those things to me. Am I in the wrong ball park here? Maybe it isn't possible to describe in any such terms?
                            How does that hold with "pitch inflation" ?

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              How does that hold with "pitch inflation" ?
                              They think it's all over ... it is now.
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                              • Lat-Literal
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                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6983

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                They think it's all over ... it is now.


                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                and would the "G minor-ness" be diminished if you tuned to A=432 or A=452 etc etc
                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                How does that hold with "pitch inflation" ?
                                Yes, Wolstenholme - and 4-4-2.

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