Lieder and Art Song for Beginners/Intermediates

[CallMePaul]

Also try Brigitte Fassbaender with Jean-Yves Thibaudet, if still available. A grewat lieder singer who retired too early (to become an opera manager in Innsbruck).

This was mwant to be a Wolf recommendation. I clicked the wrong reply button and the quote was missed off! apologies.

[Beef Oven!]

...................A grewat lieder singer who retired too early.....

Hi Paul (can I call you Paul?)

I'm focussing mainly on German lieder at present, but maybe next

[rauschwerk]

For a starter kit, rauschwerk, I wouldn't want to be without EMI's 'Hugo Wolf: The Anniversary Edition', which includes the Italian and Spanish Lieder Books, Goethe, Eichendorff, Morike and Michelangelo songs and more. Eight CDs with Schwarzkopf, DFD, Bar, Von Otter, Bostridge and Thomas Allen, with accompanists Deutsch, Moore, Pappano and Parsons.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolf-150th-A...lf+anniversary

Thanks, that looks like a wonderful bargain, especially as Presto have it even cheaper than Amazon at present. What a roster of artists!

[teamsaint]

Thanks, that looks like a wonderful bargain, especially as Presto have it even cheaper than Amazon at present. What a roster of artists!

I had a look at this recently. looks great, but there are some interesting comments that at least one CD only plays on computer.

perhaps somebody who has the set can clarify?

[rauschwerk]

I had a look at this recently. looks great, but there are some interesting comments that at least one CD only plays on computer.

perhaps somebody who has the set can clarify?

Perhaps they didn't twig that one CD is actually a CD-ROM with texts and translations?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Perhaps they didn't twig that one CD is actually a CD-ROM with texts and translations?

- oh, I so wish! - but the reviewer in question does say that s/he has played the disc on their PC, and the sole reply to the review talks about ripping the disc and copying it to CD, so presumably they had the same problem. (They both identify "Disc 1" as the rogue CD.)

[verismissimo]

- oh, I so wish! - but the reviewer in question does say that s/he has played the disc on their PC, and the sole reply to the review talks about ripping the disc and copying it to CD, so presumably they had the same problem. (They both identify "Disc 1" as the rogue CD.)

The 'bonus' is a CD-ROM with full text and translations, which I've never attempted to 'play' as I have them all elsewhere.

[doversoul1]

Made for this thread.

Lunchtime Concert next Monday 26th

Wigmore Hall Mondays - Elizabeth Watts and Julius Drake in Liszt, Debussy and Hahn

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06kb0f0

[gurnemanz]

For a starter kit, rauschwerk, I wouldn't want to be without EMI's 'Hugo Wolf: The Anniversary Edition', which includes the Italian and Spanish Lieder Books, Goethe, Eichendorff, Morike and Michelangelo songs and more. Eight CDs with Schwarzkopf, DFD, Bar, Von Otter, Bostridge and Thomas Allen, with accompanists Deutsch, Moore, Pappano and Parsons.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolf-150th-A...lf+anniversary

It's great value. Another very good Wolf box (along with the Wolf Society set mentioned above) is the 6CD Fischer-Dieskau/Barenboim set

PS While on about Wolf: all the songs he orchestrated himself (24) fit nicely onto one CD. An excellent new recording with Juliane Banse, Dietrich Henschel and Kent Nagano conducting is on offer at Presto.

[Pianophile]

Examples please!

A favourite English song of mine which I should have included in my last post is King David by Howells. The piano part is challenging, since one has to represent the sounds of a harp with both hands, whilst the right hand adds snippets of birdsong (needing a different tone-colour). It almost needs three hands, in fact. But it must sound effortless! I think I almost did justice to it last time I played it.

It's a beautiful song which I love. There must be recordings but I can't recommend one because I've never heard one.

There's a gorgeous recording by Janet Baker and Martin Isepp..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anthology-English-Song-Janet-Baker/dp/B000K9L3HK

[gurnemanz]

There's a gorgeous recording by Janet Baker and Martin Isepp..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anthology-En.../dp/B000K9L3HK

Her first note in Süßer Freund is exquisite.

[Beef Oven!]

Made for this thread.

Lunchtime Concert next Monday 26th

Wigmore Hall Mondays - Elizabeth Watts and Julius Drake in Liszt, Debussy and Hahn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06kb0f0

Perfect - many thanks for making us aware of this, doversoul

[Lat-Literal]

French mélodie is something I listen to and study a great deal of the time and (imho) indispensable are:

Berlioz Les nuits d'été (Régine Crespin); La mort d'Ophélie (April Cantelo)
Gounod Ce que je suis sans toi (Souzay for preference) - I'm not a great fan of Gounod's songs, but that one is a gem
Fauré - so many to choose from! Après un rêve; the Cinq mélodies de Venise on poems by Verlaine; Nell, Les roses d'Ispahan, Les berceaux, Automne; and - if you like Fauré's later style - the cycle L'horizon chimérique (Charles Panzera)
Chausson - Le colibri, Sérénade italienne, Le temps des lilas
Duparc - any! But Phidylé is my favourite.
Chabrier - not really a mélodie, but his Ode à la musique is adorable!
Debussy - currently looking at the Cinq poèmes de Baudelaire; the Verlaine Ariettes oubliées and Fêtes galantes are wonderful too
Ravel - Shéhérazade, as mentioned above (Crespin again); Danco in the Trois poèmes de Mallarmé; Baker in the those too and also the Chansons madécasses.
Satie - the café-concert songs such as La Diva de l'Empire and Je te veux. There used to be a wonderful LP of Meriel and Peter Dickinson doing these.
Roussel - quirky! Sarabande is my favourite Roussel song, plus the Deux poèmes chinois Op 35 (Sarah Walker or Clare Croiza)
Poulenc - anything! 'C' is heart-breaking (Bernac and Poulenc), Hotel is gorgeous, Tel jour, tel nuit a fabulous cycle. Oh, and Le bestiaire (Jean-Christophe Benoit) is hilarious!

And then there's Messiaen and Dutilleux, including an orchestral song cycle - Le temps l'horloge - written as recently as 2008 for Renée Fleming

There's just SO much to discover!

This is a list that will definitely be helpful to me in terms of bearings.

I have posted two or three but would like to hear more.

Also, we mustn't (ever) forget Spain:

Fernando J. Obradors - Del Cabello Mas Sutil -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzZ4BxETBEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE1vSUvLkc

[gradus]

Viva Espana: Teresa Berganza accompanied by Felix Lavilla in one of the most beautiful of the Maja Dolorosa songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hMP4z-W1WU

[Lat-Literal]

Viva Espana: Teresa Berganza accompanied by Felix Lavilla in one of the most beautiful of the Maja Dolorosa songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hMP4z-W1WU

Thank you gradus.

I like that very much.