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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25190

    Lieder and Art Song for Beginners/Intermediates

    Beef Oven! thought it would be a great idea if some of the board experts would be kind enough to guide those of us who are less steeped this music towards the good stuff. The great music, top singers, unmissable performances, all time Youtube greats, that sort of thing.
    Great idea Beefy !!! He's on holiday, so I don't think he can start new threads.

    So, throw the best stuff at us, help us through the Art Song Jungle.

    Currently very high on my playlist is a Peter Schreier/Walter Olbertz performance of Die Schone Mullerin. Magic stuff.

    and a whole 5 views on Youtube !!!!

    Provided to YouTube by Kontor New MediaDie schöne Müllerin, Op. 25, D. 795: No. 1, Das Wandern · Peter Schreier & Walter OlbertzFranz Schubert: Schone Muller...


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    TS
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.
  • Beef Oven!
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    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #2
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    Beef Oven! thought it would be a great idea if some of the board experts would be kind enough to guide those of us who are less steeped this music towards the good stuff. The great music, top singers, unmissable performances, all time Youtube greats, that sort of thing.
    Great idea Beefy !!! He's on holiday, so I don't think he can start new threads.

    So, throw the best stuff at us, help us through the Art Song Jungle.

    Currently very high on my playlist is a Peter Schreier/Walter Olbertz performance of Die Schone Mullerin. Magic stuff.

    and a whole 5 views on Youtube !!!!

    Provided to YouTube by Kontor New MediaDie schöne Müllerin, Op. 25, D. 795: No. 1, Das Wandern · Peter Schreier & Walter OlbertzFranz Schubert: Schone Muller...


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    TS
    You cheeky so and so!

    Great thread

    Art songs/lieder is a bit of a blind spot/neglected area for me, but over the last few weeks I've been listening to an awful lot of Webern's songs and I've been blown away!

    Last year I bought Schubert's Winterreise performed with soprano and hurry gurdy and I found it very involving.

    I've ordered some Ned Rorem songs too. They should be waiting for me when I'm home from holiday.

    I'm looking forward to exploring this area as a novice.

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    • Pianorak
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3127

      #3
      One of my all-time favourites: Schumann's Dichterliebe. That said I'm not overly fond of lieder.

      Olaf Bär (baritone), Geoffrey Parsons (piano). EMI Records, 1986.
      My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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      • Zucchini
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        • Nov 2010
        • 917

        #4
        Well, at the moment exactly 100% of singers mentioned in this thread are still alive (Schreier & Bar). Surely a a forum record.
        Last edited by Zucchini; 16-10-15, 20:17. Reason: added names

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        • Lat-Literal
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          • Aug 2015
          • 6983

          #5
          A good idea for a thread although I doubt I will have much to contribute. One thing I have noticed is that R3 seems VERY keen on Die Winterreise. It isn't quite the work for me but my natural inclination - or in other words limited knowledge - would be to go for one of, apparently, three recordings by Fischer-Dieskau and Moore. Of course, I may post more whenever I remind myself that something I listen to fits into this category. There have probably been some relevant posts already but I would have been thinking outside any box:

          Franz Schubert - Die Winterreise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UDOmUcxCk

          Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
          Well, at the moment exactly 100% of singers mentioned in this thread are still alive (Schreier & Bar). Surely a a forum record.
          Ah, just noticed your post......erm, my apologies.
          Last edited by Lat-Literal; 16-10-15, 20:29.

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          • Beef Oven!
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            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #6
            Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
            One of my all-time favourites: Schumann's Dichterliebe. That said I'm not overly fond of lieder.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZNrxgvaf58
            I have the Ian Bostridge recording on EMI, but I've not played it in years. I must dig it up when I return from holiday.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
              Well, at the moment exactly 100% of singers mentioned in this thread are still alive (Schreier & Bar). Surely a a forum record.
              I've just added Bostridge, but Lit-Lat's letting the side down
              Last edited by Beef Oven!; 16-10-15, 20:43.

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              • Lat-Literal
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                • Aug 2015
                • 6983

                #8
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                I've just added Bestride, but Lit-Lat's letting the side down
                Sorry my friend.

                I was reading up on Cevat Şakir Kabaağaçlı and sponge diving.

                The Bodrum Peninsula sounds good!

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post

                  The Bodrum Peninsula sounds good!
                  So does Isle of Wight

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                  • EdgeleyRob
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    #10
                    Cudda called this thread take me to your lieder.

                    I listen to a lot of English songs,presumably these don't count.
                    There was a time when I had loads of records of Schubert,Brahms,Schumann and Hugo Wolf lieder,but I never really enjoyed listening to them,so I passed them on.
                    Can't say I miss them.

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25190

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                      Cudda called this thread take me to your lieder.

                      I listen to a lot of English songs,presumably these don't count.
                      There was a time when I had loads of records of Schubert,Brahms,Schumann and Hugo Wolf lieder,but I never really enjoyed listening to them,so I passed them on.
                      Can't say I miss them.
                      why wouldn't they?
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • gradus
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5601

                        #12
                        There is so much that is lovely awaiting discovery.
                        Could I recommend Schumann's Liederkreis op 39 settings of Eichendorff poems especially in the vivid and beautiful Bryn Terfel/Malcolm Martineau recording.
                        On a more southerly tack, La Maja Dolorosa by Granados sung by Teresa Berganza especially De aquel majo amante, once heard in an Edinburgh Festival recital and never since forgotten.

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                        • Beef Oven!
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #13
                          There is so much that is lovely awaiting discovery.
                          Absolutely


                          Could I recommend Schumann's Liederkreis op 39 settings of Eichendorff poems especially in the vivid and beautiful Bryn Terfel/Malcolm Martineau recording.
                          I have the Bostridge recording on EMI.

                          On a more southerly tack, La Maja Dolorosa by Granados sung by Teresa Berganza especially De aquel majo amante, once heard in an Edinburgh Festival recital and never since forgotten.
                          Completely unknown to me.

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                          • EdgeleyRob
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            #14
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            why wouldn't they?
                            I've got in a bit of a tiz here.
                            I'm not sure what he difference is between song,art song and lied.
                            Are lieder German and songs or art songs can be anything ?

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                            • antongould
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8774

                              #15
                              Good thread ts ....

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