Hello folks, I've jusy joined this forum and for my first post I thought I'd give myself a good bit of hassle. See how polite Radio 3 listeners are :)
It has always puzzled me why jazz is connected with classical. The way I see it jazz is a form of pop music, not classical. Uh? … Shock! … Horror!
Sorry folks but that's the way I see it I'm afraid and I know I'll get plenty of stick for this but please bear in mind I am not sure about the following views I will relate. These are the conclusions I have come up with so far and I see this as still a very confusing subject. Please bear in mind I am thinking out loud here, not sure my views are correct, I am posing these views with a hope to learn further and hopefully consolidate them.
To my way of thinking there are basically two genres of music - Classical and Pop. There are many types of music that straddle those two forms, such as prog rock and modern jazz, but I think that on the whole most music can be placed in either one of these two genres.
Classical Music - this type of music originated from religious music and the first form of classical music was Gregorian Chant. It branched out from there to form many different types, such as romantic, baroque, renaissance, minimalist(?), one of which is actually called classical. In live performance such music is very rarely amplified, only when the venue is very big or outside will it be amplified. I have recently been told that the truer name for classical music is Art Music (don't know if that name describes it any better).
Pop Music - this type of music I think has originated from traditional folk music. It has of course also branched out and now encompasses a vast variety of styles such as country, blues, rock, house, heavy metal and again (like with classical), one of which is actually called pop. In live performance this music is virtually always amplified, no matter how small the venue.
Now then, (here comes trouble) it seems to me that jazz fits into the latter genre. I thought it had its origins in traditional folk music and in live performance is always amplified, and it always sounds like a type of pop music to me, only modern jazz sounds classical. I think the reason jazz fans do not like their music associated with pop music is that they think pop is a lower class of music. I do not see pop music that way (except the vulgar way in which it is always amplified loud no matter how small the venue), I see it as just a different type of music, it satisfies a different part of my nature, a part that has equal validity and importance as the part of my character satisfied by classical music. I love both classical and pop in equal measure so I do not see the placing of jazz into the pop genre as an insult ….
…. right, think I better scarper …. TAXI!
Rich
It has always puzzled me why jazz is connected with classical. The way I see it jazz is a form of pop music, not classical. Uh? … Shock! … Horror!
Sorry folks but that's the way I see it I'm afraid and I know I'll get plenty of stick for this but please bear in mind I am not sure about the following views I will relate. These are the conclusions I have come up with so far and I see this as still a very confusing subject. Please bear in mind I am thinking out loud here, not sure my views are correct, I am posing these views with a hope to learn further and hopefully consolidate them.
To my way of thinking there are basically two genres of music - Classical and Pop. There are many types of music that straddle those two forms, such as prog rock and modern jazz, but I think that on the whole most music can be placed in either one of these two genres.
Classical Music - this type of music originated from religious music and the first form of classical music was Gregorian Chant. It branched out from there to form many different types, such as romantic, baroque, renaissance, minimalist(?), one of which is actually called classical. In live performance such music is very rarely amplified, only when the venue is very big or outside will it be amplified. I have recently been told that the truer name for classical music is Art Music (don't know if that name describes it any better).
Pop Music - this type of music I think has originated from traditional folk music. It has of course also branched out and now encompasses a vast variety of styles such as country, blues, rock, house, heavy metal and again (like with classical), one of which is actually called pop. In live performance this music is virtually always amplified, no matter how small the venue.
Now then, (here comes trouble) it seems to me that jazz fits into the latter genre. I thought it had its origins in traditional folk music and in live performance is always amplified, and it always sounds like a type of pop music to me, only modern jazz sounds classical. I think the reason jazz fans do not like their music associated with pop music is that they think pop is a lower class of music. I do not see pop music that way (except the vulgar way in which it is always amplified loud no matter how small the venue), I see it as just a different type of music, it satisfies a different part of my nature, a part that has equal validity and importance as the part of my character satisfied by classical music. I love both classical and pop in equal measure so I do not see the placing of jazz into the pop genre as an insult ….
…. right, think I better scarper …. TAXI!
Rich
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