50 Modern Classics

[MrGongGong]

This one coming up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r9p4m

and the others

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02nrwz7/episodes/guide

THIS is "Core Repertoire" IMV

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

THIS is "Core Repertoire" IMV

Yes - you hear the works and go "Cor!"

[Bryn]

Yes - you hear the works and go "Cor!"

Well, for number 7 on the list, certainly, with capital C.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Well, for number 7 on the list, certainly, with capital C.

- You're such a card, you!

[Serial_Apologist]

THIS is "Core Repertoire" IMV

I wouldn't agree that all of it is, by any stretch.

[MrGongGong]

I wouldn't agree that all of it is, by any stretch.

I wan't being entirely serious
apart from attempting to make a point about so called "core repertoire"

[Lat-Literal]

Have been reading this thread with interest and trying to gauge it. I very much like the look of what is listed. That may say an awful lot about that list and me. One thing I note is the exclusion of John Adams. There is a sort of political thing there I believe. It is not my wish to get into that matter. However, my gut feeling is that the man isn't truly awful. I also noted that one brave soul - that is, braver than the BBC given the very obvious exclusion - did mention that he had listened to "Shaker Loops" recently. I regard this as an important work given the way it dovetails in with Copland plus I have a personal thing for the Shaker movement. Of course, many might feel that the Reichs and even the Rileys have no justifiable place in this sphere. I respect that opinion while not being of the same view. I very much like what I have heard of Adams and, in fact, I am listening to it now:

John Adams - Shaker Loops - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14AkML7gY54

(Footnote: How many people are now Shakers internationally? The answer, sadly, is three. That's terrible given they were a group of people who produced some wonderful music).

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yes - I'm not particularly impressed or moved by Adams' output, but its "prominence" in late 20th Century concert programming gives it more of a right to be there than ... well, I shan't mention Nyman in case I upset his admirers.

Perhaps they couldn't find a Musician able and willing to talk about it for a quarter-of-an-hour?

[Bryn]

Yes - I'm not particularly impressed or moved by Adams' output, but its "prominence" in late 20th Century concert programming gives it more of a right to be there than ... well, I shan't mention Nyman in case I upset his admirers.

Perhaps they couldn't find a Musician able and willing to talk about it for a quarter-of-an-hour?

In the context of the film, Nyman's Purcell manipulations for The Draughtsman's Contract is very effective, I reckon. Then there's Think Slow, Act Fast, but otherwise ...

[Beef Oven!]

In the context of the film, Nyman's Purcell manipulations for The Draughtsman's Contract is very effective, I reckon. Then there's Think Slow, Act Fast, but otherwise ...

Sums it up, IMV.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Sums it up, IMV.

Yes - fair points from Bryn.


But I can't really get excited about Nyman or Adams (or a couple of others) - what I want to know is why the flip Opening of the Mouth isn't on the list!!!

[MrGongGong]

In the context of the film, Nyman's Purcell manipulations for The Draughtsman's Contract is very effective, I reckon. Then there's Think Slow, Act Fast, but otherwise ...

In Re Don Giovanni is a rather jolly romp
Bell set #1?

[Lat-Literal]

Yes - I'm not particularly impressed or moved by Adams' output, but its "prominence" in late 20th Century concert programming gives it more of a right to be there than ... well, I shan't mention Nyman in case I upset his admirers.

Perhaps they couldn't find a Musician able and willing to talk about it for a quarter-of-an-hour?

Plus Nyman isn't associated with any group responsible for a stunning range of headboards.

[DublinJimbo]

One thing I note is the exclusion of John Adams [ … ] I very much like what I have heard of Adams and, in fact, I am listening to it now:

John Adams - Shaker Loops - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14AkML7gY54

I'd agree about Adams deserving inclusion. I was a long-time poo-poo-er of minimalism in general, but hearing part of Nixon in China on the radio changed my mind about JA at least, and I went to a (wonderful) performance of the opera here in Dublin last year. Then there was a stand-up-and-cheer performance of Harmonielehre some years ago by the National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland which was astonishingly good. Most recently I heard a terrific performance of the original string sextet version of Shaker Loops which wasn't half bad (all the better for being performed live by a group of totally engaged musicians who put their all into it).

[Barbirollians]

Surprised not to see any Schnittke on the list or Gubaidulina