What's happened to "Classical" on revamped Independent website?

[Lordgeous]

Can't find it - "Music" only includes Pop now! Or am i having a grey moment?

[subcontrabass]

Can't find it - "Music" only includes Pop now! Or am i having a grey moment?

Scroll right to the bottom of the "Culture" page - you will find "Classical" (such as there is) on the right under the "Plus" banner.

[Lordgeous]

Cheers! Mmm... Not what it used to be, alas.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It would appear to be yet another example of the marginalization of classical music.

MrGG says there are no barbarians at the door. He's absolutely right. They entered and took over several decades ago.

[MrGongGong]

It would appear to be yet another example of the marginalization SP of classical music.

MrGG says there are no barbarians at the door. He's absolutely right. They entered and took over several decades ago.

[Pulcinella]

Problem with -iz spelling, Mr GG?
Why?
Check out any good dictionary (e.g., Concise Oxford) and you will discover that the primary listing for such words is now under z, with s as the alternative. It is NOT creeping Americanization (sic), as many suspect!

[MrGongGong]

Problem with -iz spelling, Mr GG?
Why?
Check out any good dictionary (e.g., Concise Oxford) and you will discover that the primary listing for such words is now under z, with s as the alternative. It is NOT creeping Americanization (sic), as many suspect!

It's the barbarians I tell ye !

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Problem with -iz spelling, Mr GG?
Why?
Check out any good dictionary (e.g., Concise Oxford) and you will discover that the primary listing for such words is now under z, with s as the alternative. It is NOT creeping Americanization (sic), as many suspect!

Actually, I accept Mr GG's reproof. Hardly anyone in the UK uses the "z" spelling. The good people at Oxford are out of touch with reality, but are obsessed by Ancient Greek, quite forgetting that our language owes more to Latin than to Greek. How many Latin words contain the letter "z"?

[MrGongGong]

. The good people at Oxford are out of touch with reality,

No change there then Oink Oink

[teamsaint]

I have a suspicion that these days, the Barbarians (tm) would be a franchised organisation, with their head office and other non core functions outsourced to the Far East, and with their registered offices in a Carribbean tax haven.

the gates would likely have been taken down and sold, to offset costs.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

No change there then Oink Oink

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ise1.htm

[vinteuil]

Alpie has always had a thing about the -ize, I know not why.

We were here a couple of years ago -

The whole blog is riddled with those nausiating "...ize" endings.

A fuller account of the reasons for preferring -ize (apart from the arguments from Hart and Fowler which we have had before):

http://www.metadyne.co.uk/ize.html

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Alpie has always had a thing about the -ize, I know not why.

You wrong me on this occasion. I was taking a neutral stance.

A fuller account of the reasons for preferring -ize (apart from the arguments from Hart and Fowler which we have had before):

http://www.metadyne.co.uk/ize.html

Having just read this article, the conclusion seemed to suggest the opposite . . .

I must take issue with 'Phonetic considerations favour the z.' The letter "s" is pronounced with a buzzing sound (i.e. like a "z") monumentally more frequently than with a hissing sound, for which it's often doubled. Not only is this the case in its use in some of the most common words - is, his, hers, was, has, but also in most plurals.

[Pulcinella]

Actually, I accept Mr GG's reproof. Hardly anyone in the UK uses the "z" spelling. The good people at Oxford are out of touch with reality, but are obsessed by Ancient Greek, quite forgetting that our language owes more to Latin than to Greek. How many Latin words contain the letter "z"?

Apologies for continuing to be off main thread topic, but not just Oxford: my Chambers and Collins dictionaries also have the primary listing under the z option. Look up a word such as realize, for example.

I did my editorial training at The Institue of Physics; their journal style used the z, and I have never had a problem with it!

[Old Grumpy]

Apologies for continuing to be off main thread topic, but not just Oxford: my Chambers and Collins dictionaries also have the primary listing under the z option. Look up a word such as realize, for example.

I did my editorial training at The Institue of Physics; their journal style used the z, and I have never had a problem with it!

That would be the Institute of Phyzics then, surely?