"I'm a Barbie Girl" in the style of 6 classical composers

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  • Hitch
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    • Nov 2010
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    "I'm a Barbie Girl" in the style of 6 classical composers

    Definitely worth watching. There is also a technological nugget at the end.

  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4399

    #2
    I have seen this before but there are loads of others like this on YouTube. I find it really amusing although it is not exactly respectful of the original composers. Good to hear some like Schubert almost ridiculed.

    My wife loves the original tune. We heard a brass band at New Alresford agricultural show perform this and Lovem and her friend Bernadette started to sing alot. It was a few days after our wedding so the tune has sime resinnance for us !

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 38278

      #3
      That is brilliant, including especially the concurrent analytical text. A friend of mine, who's a very good jazz violinist, once posted a link to a gig, with him performing a well-known standard, to which he subsequently captioned all the improvising clichés that he'd deployed in the solo. If it's still here and I can find it, I'll post the link here.

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      • oliver sudden
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        • Feb 2024
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        #4
        There’s more!

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        • smittims
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          • Aug 2022
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          #5
          It's certainly very clever, and this chap clearly knows something about composition. I wonder what the purpose was: perhaps to stimulate an interest in classical music and how it is made, amongst listeners who might not otherwise be interested.

          I did find that Mozart was the only composer whose style I found definitely identifiable. And unlike Ian, I didn't think any of them were being ridiculed, only emulated . I haven't , knowingly at any rate, heard the original song

          It did remind me of Fritz Spiegl's 1960s compositions such as The Royal Beatleworks Music and The Beatles Concerto, in which Lennon&McCartney melodies were subjected to pastiche Handel and Tchaikovsky . I wasn't sure the aim was instruction or just entertainment.

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          • Ian Thumwood
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            • Dec 2010
            • 4399

            #6
            My piano teacher would sometimes do stuff like that such as play the standard Blue Moon in the style of Beethoven .

            I think that this pricks the bubble of pomposity in music by using a piece of pip bubble gum to illustrate some of the traits of keyboard composers. However, there is a serious bit of analysis going on here which also throws light on how composers tackle variations. I love this clip but it made me think about the ability of composers to improvise and how some totally transform their source material whereas others such as Beethoven tinker with the themes.


            It would be funny if composers used this material today.
            Unable to post the original via my mobile.....


            Come on, Barbie, let's go party......

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            • Quarky
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              • Dec 2010
              • 2689

              #7
              To my mind, it addresses the issue of the value or importance of the melody in Cassical Music.

              Not all that important, imv, a great composer could produce a valuable work from unpromising material (Diabelli), whereas in Pop, the melody or tune is everything, and in Contemporary music, any melody may well have gone out of the window.

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              • Roger Webb
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                • Feb 2024
                • 1189

                #8
                Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                My piano teacher would sometimes do stuff like that such as play the standard Blue Moon in the style of Beethoven .

                .
                What about......



                This is the earliest I can find, but he played it as a party-piece on many later shows.

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                • kernelbogey
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Enjoyed these - thanks Hitcn & Oliver S.

                  I've long thought that I'm a Barbie Girl could be formed into a good Vivaldi pastiche.

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                  • kernelbogey
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5927

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post

                    This is the earliest I can find, but he played it as a party-piece on many later shows.
                    Someone has transcribed this (Dudley Moore's Beethoven pastiche, aka And the Same to You) and maybe recorded it: I have't a clue who....

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                    • Roger Webb
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                      • Feb 2024
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      Someone has transcribed this (Dudley Moore's Beethoven pastiche, aka And the Same to You) and maybe recorded it: I have't a clue who....
                      This perhaps

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                      • kernelbogey
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post

                        This perhaps
                        Very likely - thanks Roger.

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                        • Sir Velo
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                          the ability of composers to improvise and how some totally transform their source material whereas others such as Beethoven tinker with the themes.

                          ...
                          Eh? Ever heard Variations on Rule Britannia or the Diabelli Variations?

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                          • Ian Thumwood
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post

                            Eh? Ever heard Variations on Rule Britannia or the Diabelli Variations?
                            Of course but never a fan of Beethoven and think that he stuck pretty closely to the material he was working with. If you are used to jazz , the treatment is not really that radical as Beethoven did not have the tools to totally transform his starting point . Begs the question as to who was the better improviser...Beethoven or John Coltrane ? Or even Keith Jarrett.

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                            • mopsus
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by smittims View Post

                              It did remind me of Fritz Spiegl's 1960s compositions such as The Royal Beatleworks Music and The Beatles Concerto, in which Lennon&McCartney melodies were subjected to pastiche Handel and Tchaikovsky . I wasn't sure the aim was instruction or just entertainment.
                              The Beatlecracker Suite, which I found very witty when I heard it some years ago (on the BBC light music show which used to run for an hour on a weekday afternoon), was originally background music for a film relating to the Fab Four, because Parlophone or Apple or whoever had only given permission for cover versions of their songs.

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