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  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7799

    #46
    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    Alan Civil used to tell a delightful anecdote about the famous opening of the Oberon overture. In his RPO days he was sometimes frustrated by Sir Thomas Beecham's habit of fussing about ., with spectacles etc. just before giving the downbeat , so one day Civil jumped the gun and started without him.
    Fantastic!

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    • pastoralguy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7799

      #47
      Hmmm. For me, the late Brahms piano music. I’ve heard many recordings since first discovering this wonderful music but it’s still the first encounter by Stephen Bishop-Kovacevich on Philips that I return to.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4325

        #48
        Yes, one's 'first encounter' often remains a favourite. With me it's Julius Katchen in late Brahms, though I agree Kovacevitch is a classic. David Owen Norris, however,was quite disparaging in 'Building a Library' and chose a dull performance by someonge I'd never heard of.

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22180

          #49
          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          Alan Civil used to tell a delightful anecdote about the famous opening of the Oberon overture. In his RPO days he was sometimes frustrated by Sir Thomas Beecham's habit of fussing about ., with spectacles etc. just before giving the downbeat , so one day Civil jumped the gun and started without him.
          Clearly he would wait ‘For no one’ and his orchestral colleagues thought it to be very Civil!

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 8627

            #50
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post

            Clearly he would wait ‘For no one’ and his orchestral colleagues thought it to be very Civil!
            Did he remember to tuck well in beforehand, I wonder?

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            • kernelbogey
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              • Nov 2010
              • 5801

              #51
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              ...Music to cheer you up - need not be cheery music but a piece of music that gives you great pleasure to listen to may simply mean a brief respite from life's troubles or may improve your mood simply by being exposed to a great piece and a great performance...
              I think this is an important point: following the 'argument' (for want of a better word) of a piece can be absorbing, taking one out of oneself. Noticing aspects of a piece because the performer(s) has interpreted it in a different way from others: these, in a sense intellectual or cognitive, tasks do not in themselves make 'cheery music', as Barbs proposes. This indeed would be why, for me, the Goldberg Variations can be 'upcheering' because they are endlessly absorbing, notably when performers diverge in their interpretation.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11751

                #52
                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                Yes, one's 'first encounter' often remains a favourite. With me it's Julius Katchen in late Brahms, though I agree Kovacevitch is a classic. David Owen Norris, however,was quite disparaging in 'Building a Library' and chose a dull performance by someonge I'd never heard of.
                That's quite common with DON BALs in my opinion - fascinatingly knowledgeable but then chooses a recording that does not thrill at all - only exception I can remember is his choice of Pires and Horowitz as runner up in D 960.

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4325

                  #53
                  thanks cloughie and LMcD.

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                  • Sir Velo
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3258

                    #54
                    Tchaikovsky's Pathetique. No matter how bad things are going personally when I hear this I know they could be a hell of a lot worse!

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37812

                      #55
                      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                      Did he remember to tuck well in beforehand, I wonder?
                      Duvet always?

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37812

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                        Tchaikovsky's Pathetique. No matter how bad things are going personally when I hear this I know they could be a hell of a lot worse!


                        My father put that symphony on the night before my mother gave birth to me. Explains everything!

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37812

                          #57
                          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                          I think this is an important point: following the 'argument' (for want of a better word) of a piece can be absorbing, taking one out of oneself. Noticing aspects of a piece because the performer(s) has interpreted it in a different way from others: these, in a sense intellectual or cognitive, tasks do not in themselves make 'cheery music', as Barbs proposes. This indeed would be why, for me, the Goldberg Variations can be 'upcheering' because they are endlessly absorbing, notably when performers diverge in their interpretation.
                          To be followed by what I think of as Schoenberg's answer to the Goldberg, namely his equally absorbing Suite Op. 25.

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                          • silvestrione
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                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1722

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                            That's quite common with DON BALs in my opinion - fascinatingly knowledgeable but then chooses a recording that does not thrill at all - only exception I can remember is his choice of Pires and Horowitz as runner up in D 960.
                            Chose Richter in the Grieg PC. But, yes, I fell for it, bought that Brahms CD, which has since long-gone to Oxfam.

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                            • LMcD
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                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8627

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                              Duvet always?
                              Only cover versions, especially in Beds.

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                              • MickyD
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 4807

                                #60
                                So many things I could choose from so many periods; early Haydn symphonies, the Mozart Horn concertos....moving on, overtures by Suppe, then into the 20th century, I've no idea why, but Eric Coates always brings a smile to my face.

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