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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    We can do the 1960s and the 1970s too much.

    These were old timers at the time of release, mid-late 1990s/early mid-2000s, slightly cheesy perhaps, but uplifting and often reaching globally in the jaws of mainstream music's defeat.

    They made me happy - I'd see them all very much as mine or ours:

    Joe Strummer - Johnny Appleseed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IbMiqIdeME
    Kirsty MacColl - Us Amazonians - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZh9ayEmKHY
    Lemonheads - If I Could Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbJ4QcEQ91w

    Jonathan Richman - Miracles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LTDA1KHzg4
    Tim Rose - Snowed In - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWERkN-Amy0
    Waterboys - The Christ in You - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skgqieCwZRA

    Van Morrison - Celtic New Year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpssck3YZKA
    Crowded House - Together Alone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6clOaNae8sg
    Hothouse Flowers - Isn't It Amazing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvB11X5b1hY

    (I accept the Tim Rose track is bleak but it's brilliant and uplifting in that way)

    At its best I reached out to people 70% but these sort of songs were closer to 90% for them being more conceptual - there's a fair amount of spiritual here too for what it's worth. I'll be honest. I think I would have loved to have been a monastic hermit - it was the respect that Rory clearly showed to the communal monks that appealed to me - but I couldn't quite do it.

    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 23-11-17, 00:54.

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      There are campy elements along with the laddier ones in the 1990s. Most which were sub-plots of Bowie and the Smiths were very good indeed. One could see how they would narrowly be anthems for many folk. However, musically they were side by side with the likes of Oasis and Blur. A testament to how some would get married for a few years for better or worse and how for others these generations just hadn't worked. That wasn't without the realisation of celebration. Hey, these were different times and everything had changed. But it was an odd era with greater records than is often realised. God forbid going into the office and talking openly about being at football yet again or at another festival. That idea of freedom was too much to bear for the downtrodden achieving. The man will be deemed "feckless". Promotion to be stifled. Oppression in a way that would never be legally categorised. I should coco.

      Give me the bleating and I will find the genuine in a shot. Now. Yes, the old had got into buying Ikea. But, the young just didn't get it anymore. Why they should have done? Gene's "Olympian" implies a sexualised perception of abnormality but at ground level it is a simple not fitting in. That is it's beauty. Any underpinning for the broader is obliqueness. Glimpses of isolation which leads other people to do unusual things. Fair enough. Strangelove's "The Runaway Brothers" again carried an overtly sexual connotation but was ostensibly the loss of mates to marriage. Suede's "Still Life" is simply a life goes on and crucially you will be employed, whatever the disappointments. All hovered around a fashionable cultural agenda in which a definition of status was still authoritatively required. One sensed that the last thing one wanted was competing versions of diktat. The absolute instinct, right, was not to comply:

      Strangelove - The Runaway Brothers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5l_dN5zMs
      Gene - Olympian - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbh6jTI8tfE
      Suede - Still Life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTOq8WpV0w

      and Oasis - Champagne Supernova - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6cyIG0CRQg

      (the latter immaculate, whatever the crititcs)

      (Be in no doubt; these are great records just before the century designed for slide)
      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 23-11-17, 02:01.

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25302

        Not really up with this sort of thing these days, but heard this by chance yesterday, and it's quite fun.




        Anybody else think it has a whiff of Nick Lowe about it? The vocals, for sure.....
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22273

          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
          We can do the 1960s and the 1970s too much.



          Joe Strummer - Johnny Appleseed - [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IbMiqIdeME[/url

          We can never do the 60s and 70s too much - it is such a rich vein!

          On the other hand Tim Rose was great - a folk slanted Joe Cocker similar voice, and Johnny Appleseed is a gem, I loved it immediately I heard it in whatever year it was released.

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          • johncorrigan
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            • Nov 2010
            • 10509

            Josh Ritter turned up on the CD player in the motor today and I went diving back to this one from about 10 years back.
            'Girl in the War' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqLssKusGzM

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            • johncorrigan
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              • Nov 2010
              • 10509

              In an alternative Universe, Jimi Hendrix is 75 today.
              Sequence with Jimi Hendrix song "If 6 was9" from the film Easy Rider (1969). Song was released on album Axis: Bold as Love in 1967.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
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                • Lat-Literal
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                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6983

                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  Josh Ritter turned up on the CD player in the motor today and I went diving back to this one from about 10 years back.
                  'Girl in the War' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqLssKusGzM
                  Great song.....and a Kershaw favourite....Ritter is currently doing the rounds in interviews etc.

                  Not that I listen to TB's "Sounds of the 60s" but I did dip in this week. They had a rare music expert on. He had been asked by a listener to dig this one out of his collection. The version he played sounded different to the version on YT and being on old vinyl there was a lot of wow and flutter etc. Blackburn said after playing it that he and the three others in the studio thought it was the worst record they had ever heard. Rotary Connection, no less, and I accept it isn't their finest moment but I reckon it is to be congratulated for being WAY out there:

                  Rotary Connection - Like A Rolling Stone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCB7zp1DSsE

                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  That's a nice juxtaposition with the Squeeze post. You can see the two eras of urban environment in those sounds, the earlier assisted by actual film. Apparently, the next Manfred Mann album was "Mighty Garvey!" I wasn't aware of that title before. A pop alphabetical associations would link it with Burning Spear and Elbow to get to a current Woman's Hour presenter.
                  Last edited by Lat-Literal; 27-11-17, 20:18.

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                  • johncorrigan
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 10509

                    'Susan's House' by Eels - I love the atmosphere he creates of his city at night time.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22273

                      Every now and then, maybe once a year or even less a surprise album comes out which I think 'wow' and I just love it - well it has just happened and I'm totally zapped by ' Leading Ladies' - Songs from the Stage. A wonderful mixture of songs, good strong true voices and great harmonies - powerful and beautiful sounds from three singers on top of their game . Have a listen on Spotify and report back!

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                      • Lat-Literal
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                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6983

                        Best wishes to Christopher Anton Rea, born Middlesbrough, North Riding of Yorkshire:

                        Chris Rea - Ace of Hearts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCxRZ8TbHoQ

                        Obviously the stand-out song but I've always loved a bit of Stainsby Girls too:

                        Chris Rea - Stainsby Girls - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqu8JixY2Ps

                        (Keep travellin')
                        Last edited by Lat-Literal; 10-12-17, 17:03.

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                        • johncorrigan
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Every now and then, maybe once a year or even less a surprise album comes out which I think 'wow' and I just love it - well it has just happened and I'm totally zapped by ' Leading Ladies' - Songs from the Stage. A wonderful mixture of songs, good strong true voices and great harmonies - powerful and beautiful sounds from three singers on top of their game . Have a listen on Spotify and report back!
                          Thanks, cloughie. This would normally be the last thing I'd listen to but thought I'd go with your recommendation and enjoyed it very much...not shouty like I find so much of the show tunes. Very well performed and some fine songs in there, although I didn't know quite a few of them. I think I'll be getting this for my Mum's Christmas - she likes music like this but normally I wouldn't dream of buying it for her. (Don't like to encourage them)

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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25302

                            Not really my sort of thing, that Leading Ladies album, but interesting to hear anywhere.

                            this is a cracker from a way back.

                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22273

                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Not really my sort of thing, that Leading Ladies album, but interesting to hear anywhere.

                              this is a cracker from a way back.

                              Sounds very ordinary to me ts! Amazing how one person's gold ....

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