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  • johncorrigan
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    • Nov 2010
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    Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
    I am not a big fan of hers - actually in some ways I really do know but anyhow - it's a place and a time. A new job. Funny bloke as a colleague - unhelpful and insulting. Oddly he did me a tape. I saw the human side to him via it and because he did it. It stayed in my mind.

    Rickie Lee Jones - The Magazine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD1wBDgT63c
    That'll be me away for a few days now, Lat, digging out all my RLJ records. She's in my top twenty women. My favourite record by her is Girl at her Volcano - I've got a 10" LP in the cupboard in the Hall that I dig out sometimes and it reminds me of my great old pal from whom I inherited it at his passing. (along with a few other belters).
    Walk Away Renee...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjcJCD9zg58
    ...and my very favourite song of hers, doing Tom Waits' 'Rainbow Sleeves'...
    Rickie Lee Jones - Girl At Her Volcano - Rainbow Sleeves - Written by Tom Waits - "Rainbow Sleeves" (12-4-78) - Warner Bros. Records 92-3805-1 - ℗ 1983 Warne...

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
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      Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
      That'll be me away for a few days now, Lat, digging out all my RLJ records. She's in my top twenty women. My favourite record by her is Girl at her Volcano - I've got a 10" LP in the cupboard in the Hall that I dig out sometimes and it reminds me of my great old pal from whom I inherited it at his passing. (along with a few other belters).
      Walk Away Renee...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjcJCD9zg58
      ...and my very favourite song of hers, doing Tom Waits' 'Rainbow Sleeves'...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR05cWgvckM
      Those are very good JC - many thanks for them.

      And yes - I recall the personal connection you mention which was alluded to subtly in my post.

      I'm going through several knife edge situations at present.

      At 3.50pm today I was being prepared by one professional for urgent referral to hospital on something pretty nasty but by 4.30pm a very experienced and trusted professional who was concerned by something last Thursday had decided it wasn't currently - or perhaps even in the longer term - necessary as it has much improved in seven days. I'm still not out of the woods as I have umpteen other things to be considered tomorrow but today's outcome was much better than I was expecting although they will see me again next Thursday to check that there is no worsening. The tentative verdict on much of this is trauma - emotional and physical - which fits the character type and these times. But I'm suddenly old.

      On Monday, it was the foot, injured 30 Sept - a comparatively mild affair it seems now - with a discharge on the basis that proper walking could/should be possible by 23 December!

      Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time Is Here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvI_FNrczzQ
      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-11-17, 23:15.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
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        Very glad to hear that the worse fears didn't come to pass, Lats - and hope that the "much better [news] than you were expecting" theme continues next Thursday.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Lat-Literal
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          • Aug 2015
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          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Very glad to hear that the worse fears didn't come to pass, Lats - and hope that the "much better [news] than you were expecting" theme continues next Thursday.
          Thank you ferney.

          I appreciate your comments very much.

          It was the standard blood tests today, a mood questionnaire and a feedback form on how they are doing. My woman GP with the headscarf has just been given by me the appraisal from heaven. Probably the best one received by anyone this year. I like her anyway - but it was that moment her face lit up when I said I was university educated rather than - as how it probably had appeared - a down and out. Total connection of the heart. Anyhow, to prove that I have gone more crackers than ever - but these are the weeks for soft spots:

          Supertramp - Take the Long Way Home - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e755aUvOe4g

          "Men are fragile creatures" - Anne Leslie

          Hands up - No 1 in the very wide ranging Lat-Lit Chart of 1979 : Weekly, Mar 1975-Dec 1999 : I still have them all:

          Supertramp - The Logical Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVOc-SM8kHc

          (Hear 'em quick as he doesn't like being You Tubed)
          Last edited by Lat-Literal; 10-11-17, 15:02.

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          • johncorrigan
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            • Nov 2010
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            This old favourite of yours turned up on the radio today, Lat. Always worth a spin...Minnie Ripperton - Les Fleurs

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            • Lat-Literal
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              • Aug 2015
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              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
              This old favourite of yours turned up on the radio today, Lat. Always worth a spin...Minnie Ripperton - Les Fleurs
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1kDd6yBQZ4
              Fabulous.....my favourite woman soul singer in the upper range. A five octave coloratura soprano with early opera training. Her placing was unusual in fairly unusual times - not pure soul but often at the heart of productions with rock and jazz links from the most extraordinary of producers Charles Stepney. That was especially true earlier with Rotary Connection who are almost impossible to define. A leftfield version of "Hair" with a few hints of Sun Ra's cosmos? Something along those lines. Had Minnie - who to my mind is vocally and time wise the link between Tammi Terrell and Deniece Williams but stronger - lived beyond the age of 31, she would have had a bigger legacy of great songs. While impeccably served by that original orchestration, not all of the material was as good as her great voice deserved. "Les Fleurs" is one of a fair number of exceptions - a track where everything was spot on. And rather as Gil Scott-Heron was picked up by the hip hop and the dance brigades much later on, so was she so they are a musical couple in that respect. Across perhaps three generations now their talent is properly appreciated. Re Stepney, I am still very keen to hear his symphony. If anyone knows how and where it can be accessed, please let me know.

              As Andrea Davis, c. 1964? - Lonely Girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DqZFJnOts

              To which one would rightly add:

              Eddie Holman - Hey There Lonely Girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyK_b4DCH4

              I don't know the actual links, if any, between these two songs - I will have to check up on it.
              Last edited by Lat-Literal; 15-11-17, 01:08.

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              • Lat-Literal
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                • Aug 2015
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                Music:

                Franti/Spearhead - Everyone Deserves Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP5WrGyUqmc
                Beach Boys - Add Some Music To Your Day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBkA4-U4MPk
                John Miles at Live Proms 2001 - Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nz7gtCArOw
                Mama Cass - Make Your Own Kind of Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQxEJ5_5zA
                Sly and the Family Stone - Dance To The Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2PNlhvy8E

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                • Lat-Literal
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                  • Aug 2015
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                  This, a good modern pop vibe, will probably get me into deep trouble as it is appallingly sexist. But I am going to do it because I think if I am being honest I always did like a sense of fun. And I think this is fun because it isn't sinister - and it smells and sounds like summer to me. And of course - "I'd rather go blind" though preferably neither - sound is everything.

                  Fun Lovin' Criminals - Loco - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktihmbqcTc

                  It was something of a link with the Franti track that drew me here. See also Jazzy Jeff's "Summertime". Huey Morgan can currently be heard as half-good DJ on BBC R2 and BBC 6M.
                  Last edited by Lat-Literal; 15-11-17, 20:22.

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                  • Lat-Literal
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                    • Aug 2015
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                    Oh dear. David Cassidy. How sad. No one else will say it. David loved Olivia, Shelagh loved David and Jeremy loved Mary. I can see the badges now. You have to play along with these things, however soppy, even when captivated and occasionally alarmed by the way in which sounds carry across the valley. Kids playing. Dogs barking. Etc. The music arranger focusses on them all and forms a view of them on that alone. Many strong songs. Good arrangements. A not unpleasant but oddly washed out sounding voice. Intriguing rather than something to be dismissed or criticised. Comprehending that popularity, which is supposed to be based entirely on sound but isn't so. Giving it, 9, sufficient credibility, rightly or wrongly, to be assessed aurally. A distinction, perhaps, between the fleeting and a long version of time which, with hindsight, is full of the fleeting and not a lot more. Something along those lines.

                    Anyhow, of six excellent toons covered by Dave and in the Partridge Family surely The Wonder Years if they had been translated into cartoon and met The Archies one has to pick out this one 'cos it was the Rascals not that this was known. Cavaliere, 74, also worked with Laura Nyro, Don Was, Steve Cropper, Carole King, Ringo Starr, Billy Joel and possibly Little Steven although he disputes it. Briganti, 72, is still performing and happy to be close to Steve Van Zandt. I have a mug which shows three smiling snow "men", one female and two male, one taller than the other. It is far closer to an acceptable image of my parents and me than anything we can offer each other now or whatever can be found in the family albums:

                    How Can I Be Sure?

                    David Cassidy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rpKz_52GE

                    Young Rascals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKeSUUK-A4

                    (When I said "I Only Have Eyes For You", I was just looking at the air..........the air was life to me and life is better than any of us)
                    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 19-11-17, 22:58.

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                    • Lat-Literal
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                      • Aug 2015
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                      .....I revisited a lot of these people in the 2000s.

                      Total respect:

                      The Association:

                      Windy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsY8l0Jg3lY

                      The thing about this track is that it is very similar to the theme tune of the teatime news programme in London in which Bill Grundy was out of his depth with the Sex Pistols.

                      But were the tunes the same?

                      Incidentally, the Elton ITV thing was interesting - the right no 1 in my opinion - only about 40 ads to wade through including the cancer ones; 2017 - can't be allowed to be untroubled.

                      Oppression in this economic liberal era is stifling.

                      As for Mary, the guesses stop now. I believe that she is a nervous if charming recluse and - it was very important then - Welsh :

                      Mary Hopkin - Temma Harbour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3o-k0ZB0pU
                      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 19-11-17, 23:16.

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
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                        Absolutely right about the Elton, lat and I don' think his output since the early 80s has been that good - the 'Daniel' and 'I'm still standing' era. Association did some great stuff - 'Cherish' and 'Never my love' stand out, but this is a deligghtful cover of 'Windy'

                        Astrud Gilberto, known as "The Girl from Ipanema" and often referred to as "The Queen of Bossa-Nova", is an artist with roots firmly planted in Brazilian mus...

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                        • Lat-Literal
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                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Absolutely right about the Elton, lat and I don' think his output since the early 80s has been that good - the 'Daniel' and 'I'm still standing' era. Association did some great stuff - 'Cherish' and 'Never my love' stand out, but this is a deligghtful cover of 'Windy'

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiFShyXVTE
                          Wow, I am grateful for your response. I am currently coping with strange currents from my parents. It was unusually steered onto my turf towards Sgt Pepper - and I do love them but old age and all that; our relationship as always is all emotional highs and lows - and then we got onto The Girl From Ipanema. Brazilian, I said. No. Like The Beatles they insisted. It probably takes a music fanatic to say "I think you are thinking of Bacharach and "This Guys In Love With You"". Yes, they said. Then you just have to deal with the stroppiness - along with mild accolades - of getting the facts right. Jobim to Bacharach. Girl to Guy. I'm not a genius but you have to perform magic tricks to make these leaps and maintain equilibrium all round. The Association - yes indeed, and I'd go with "Branches" and "Requiem for the Masses" as indicative of diversity. Elton and Daniel - the true story of its meaning was fascinating.

                          It's fine that it means different things to different people. Good, even. Taupin is interesting in himself. When I went a bit potty in the 1990s, I could have easily composed a symphony but I would have needed to have sung all the parts to a composer. It was all there - but so were the electronic sounds of wheels in cars passing by the flat that couldn't be separated in my head. And there was a constant playing of high voiced choirs and - lord knows why - "Rocket Man". Couldn't switch it off but mainly as people know I am normal. Ordinary. Very ordinary. Stress. I understand stress. These things pass. I like Elton's early, Elton's Disney and Elton's mid-period yesterday man. Guy - and the later resurrected "Ready For Love".

                          Elton John from the Thom Bell sessions - Are You Ready For Love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x13ZxRV2cLw

                          The frankly fantastic Song For Guy (but it doesn't count as a song) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU9ug3Ij2Gs

                          There is a bit more. Back in the day, it was Mark, his sister and her husband who were big on Elton. I never have been. But I sat in the car of the older two with them smooching and smoking cigarettes to Joni, Fleetwood Mac....and Elton. They were pretty dismissive of us. We were in the way. In our homes, he played the albums in their entirety along with the likes of Gong, only losing interest in them at around the time of "A Single Man". He had issues with the rumours that were then around. The albums are variable. They are not all for the good but I know them well. They were big fun times. The family made me welcome, we had a lot of laughs, and there was a lot of common experience. They had a games room. I went on holidays with them. The closest I got to a family who were nouveau riche and true blue. But as he lost weight and married into his class, I went towards intelligent left wing academia.

                          Comprehensive. Not as constructive but seemingly safer. I'm an old style conservative with centre left economics. I'm only liberal in outlook towards how other people live their lives. I'm pleased with the wide range of experiences I have had - about as wide as was possible in this country - but the change on Elton on his part has always implied to me an economic/power stance. I suspect he has changed in his outlook. He was a great guy. He has a million pound home. Me? I have never done fads or polarities and never will. But I loved the atmospherics.
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                          • Lat-Literal
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                            • Aug 2015
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                            I'm off the leash here. I sometimes wonder what the point of all this is but anyhow. Reflecting the ways in which we have managed to live or something. "Blue Eyes" was a rare No 1 EJ song in my chart - the thing that wouldn't go outside the Top 30 or 40 as a hand to the rest of society but turned it into how it should be as I saw it. Merit. Forums are a late version of that but public and with words. The peg for this one is the old girl from Croydon who was once a bluecoat. She gets a taxi up to here every Wednesday to play the piano. You shout it out and she will play it. She has a broken foot and still has life. She's fun. She's going down to the couple in the flat below her for their "babyshower". It's a boy so all the songs will have blue in the title. She has more imagination than most a third of her age. She will be appreciated for her efforts. They will also not have a clue about "Blue Mooin", "Blue Suede Shoes" or anything else. They are young - and certainly non-British. No criticism - but it needs to be in two directions. If it was our generation, who, frankly, cares? We're nothing apparently.

                            Elton John - Blue Eyes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CiyKeSnSxk

                            (The biggest punch you can deliver to someone with blue eyes is that their eyes are cold - they and their hitherto unchallenged ego will never get over it or indeed ever allow you to)
                            Last edited by Lat-Literal; 20-11-17, 01:12.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                              I'm off the leash here. I sometimes wonder what the point of all this is but anyhow. Reflecting the ways in which we have managed to live or something. "Blue Eyes" was a rare No 1 EJ song in my chart - the thing that wouldn't go outside the Top 30 or 40 as a hand to the rest of society but turned it into how it should be as I saw it. Merit. Forums are a late version of that but public and with words. The peg for this one is the old girl from Croydon who was once a bluecoat. She gets a taxi up to here every Wednesday to play the piano. You shout it out and she will play it. She has a broken foot and still has life. She's fun. She's going down to the couple in the flat below her for their "babyshower". It's a boy so all the songs will have blue in the title. She has more imagination than most a third of her age. She will be appreciated for her efforts. They will also not have a clue about "Blue Mooin", "Blue Suede Shoes" or anything else. They are young - and certainly non-British. No criticism - but it needs to be in two directions. If it was our generation, who, frankly, cares? We're nothing apparently.

                              Elton John - Blue Eyes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CiyKeSnSxk

                              (The biggest punch you can deliver to someone with blue eyes is that their eyes are cold - they and their hitherto unchallenged ego will never get over it or indeed ever allow you to)
                              Some good blue related songs around not least 'Blue Guitar' by John Lodge snd Justin Hayward, a different slant on the Blue Eyes theme from Crystal Gayle* 'It don't make your brown eyes blue' (of course Bowie had one of each) and one of the best ever Eurovision songs 'Love is Blue'.
                              *I love her voice.

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                              • johncorrigan
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Some good blue related songs around not least 'Blue Guitar' by John Lodge snd Justin Hayward, a different slant on the Blue Eyes theme from Crystal Gayle* 'It don't make your brown eyes blue' (of course Bowie had one of each) and one of the best ever Eurovision songs 'Love is Blue'.
                                *I love her voice.
                                Regina Spektor - Blue Lips...I love it.
                                This is the studio recording of Blue Lips All right credited toward Regina Spektor.Video is under Fair Use:Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copy...

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