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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    And if there had never been a Dylan, a Morrison, a Mitchell, what then of the status of Neil Young?

    Individual, awkward, a poet of sorts, in essence utterly romantic:

    Only Love Can Break Your Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOl01vKXv6I
    Heart of Gold - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE
    Harvest Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs
    Old Man (Look at My Life) : Live - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An2a1_Do_fc

    (Yet again, depth in simplicity......)
    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 10-09-17, 23:44.

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    • johncorrigan
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      • Nov 2010
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      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
      And if there had never been a Dylan, a Morrison, a Mitchell, what then of the status of Neil Young?

      Individual, awkward, a poet of sorts, in essence utterly romantic:

      Only Love Can Break Your Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOl01vKXv6I
      Heart of Gold - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE
      Harvest Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs
      Old Man (Look at My Life) : Live - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An2a1_Do_fc

      (Yet again, depth in simplicity......)
      Four Strong Winds

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22273

        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
        A great song written by Ian Tyson, The Searchers did a great version of it. He also wrote 'Someday Soon' which Julie Felix recorded back in the day as also did Judy Collins. Both excellent.

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        • johncorrigan
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          • Nov 2010
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          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          A great song written by Ian Tyson, The Searchers did a great version of it. He also wrote 'Someday Soon' which Julie Felix recorded back in the day as also did Judy Collins. Both excellent.
          Had never realised Neily didn't write it, cloughie. 'Comes a Time', the LP I know it from, is one of my favourite Neil Young records. I know Judy Collins' version of 'Someday Soon' pretty well. I listened to her a lot back then. Was thinking of Judy Blue Eyes when Lat was talking of simplicity.
          This is a praise hymn in 4-part chorale style based on the American Traditional Shaker melody with the text an adaptation of Psalm 145. The Shaker Melody is ...

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
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            Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
            Had never realised Neily didn't write it, cloughie. 'Comes a Time', the LP I know it from, is one of my favourite Neil Young records. I know Judy Collins' version of 'Someday Soon' pretty well. I listened to her a lot back then. Was thinking of Judy Blue Eyes when Lat was talking of simplicity.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWTDgc96bg8
            By the way jc there's a CSN&Y link, Steve Stills plays guitar and I think produced the 'Who knows where the time goes' album which Someday Soon is from. 48 years on still one near the top of my album stack!

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            • gurnemanz
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              • Nov 2010
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              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
              I've known the song for a long time. Popular in 60s folk clubs. I've only got two recordings of it , both acquired quite recently and both good:

              Johnny Cash on American V

              Bob Dylan & The Band - Bootleg 11, Basement Tapes Complete, CD2 (of 6!) rec 1967 but not issued till 2014. Blocked on YouTube.

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              • Lat-Literal
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                • Aug 2015
                • 6983

                All being reasonably well, it looks like I may fulfill my one remaining ambition on the second Sunday of October.

                Holy Island.......and Tynemouth/Whitley Bay........here we come!

                Lindisfarne:

                Angels at Eleven - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqaElMGJ8zE
                Winter Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg_dsk7u26A
                Dingly Dell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxzdA60uDrU
                Roll on River - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2NrVrhtJLA
                Clear White Light - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfhMZeb-1oo

                Among other things, many not especially musical, it is surely no coincidence that probably the best - and certainly the most misrepresented - semi-mainstream British band of the 1970s came from the same region as by far the most outstanding semi-mainstream British musical group of the 2000s (actually light years ahead of all the "competition"). Yep...it's this again:

                The Unthanks - King of Rome - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fL3E8FRxiw
                Last edited by Lat-Literal; 11-09-17, 18:00.

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
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                  Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                  All being reasonably well, it looks like I may fulfill my one remaining ambition on the second Sunday of October.

                  Holy Island.......and Tynemouth/Whitley Bay........here we come!

                  Angels at Eleven - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqaElMGJ8zE
                  Winter Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg_dsk7u26A
                  Dingly Dell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxzdA60uDrU
                  Roll on River - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2NrVrhtJLA
                  Clear White Light - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfhMZeb-1oo
                  Or:
                  Run for home - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLwTuOextNI
                  Lady Eleanor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUe4JARmdiM
                  Meet me on the Corner - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YM8EFjEY5s

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                  • Lat-Literal
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                    • Aug 2015
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                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    You did it for me.

                    There might be another five yet because I am in that frame of mind - that's warming to an already very warm theme.

                    McAloon/Prefab, the "cleverest" of the 1980s, Spennymoor, Durham; the Watersons resident in Robin Hood's Bay etc.

                    (I can't begin to describe how much Alan Hull made a difference to my life and many others, dead at 50, awful, that)
                    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 11-09-17, 18:44.

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                    • Lat-Literal
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                      • Aug 2015
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                      Ray Jackson is on lead vocals on some here - but it is mainly "Alan feeling sorry for himself".

                      The accent is on the commercial/conventional - not that most of it sold.

                      But it ends with what would be the extraordinary if it wasn't that he'd done it in other songs:

                      100 Miles To Liverpool - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOf8NxyyRw
                      Warm Feeling - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoi3WmtcGec
                      Nights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvdmeni-KBQ
                      The Evening - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKWATKVXVc
                      .....Good To Be Here? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3ku_XDQjw

                      There is a whole bunch of other stuff that is much more roots based - they could do anything.

                      "Nights" which, in truth, is just 1950s pastiche was/is a very pivotal song in my background.
                      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 11-09-17, 19:31.

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                      • johncorrigan
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        By the way jc there's a CSN&Y link, Steve Stills plays guitar and I think produced the 'Who knows where the time goes' album which Someday Soon is from. 48 years on still one near the top of my album stack!
                        I also have a Judy Collins LP that is near the top of the stack for me, cloughie - my wonderful Aunt Sadie had 'Wildflowers' and whenever I stayed over there I used to play it to death. Introduced me to Joni, Lenny, Jacques and it still does it for me. There's a couple of Judy's own songs on it. 'Albatross' still makes me tingle, as does 'Since you asked'...

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
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                          Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                          I also have a Judy Collins LP that is near the top of the stack for me, cloughie - my wonderful Aunt Sadie had 'Wildflowers' and whenever I stayed over there I used to play it to death. Introduced me to Joni, Lenny, Jacques and it still does it for me. There's a couple of Judy's own songs on it. 'Albatross' still makes me tingle, as does 'Since you asked'...
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVNlQ3ajqFk
                          Yes, jc, I love that one two. Joni's Michael from Mountains and both Sides Now in impeccable performances! She never really pushed her own songwriting long term but then she was such a great interpreter of others, Mitchell, Cohen, dylan and others. The third album of hers which I also love is In my Life which has Cohen's Dress Rehearsal Rag and Dylan's Just like Tom Thumb's Blues. All three of the one's we've discussed are in the 5fer, together with Judith and Fifth Album - worth a tenner of anyones money! Good Songs sung well with tasteful arrangements.

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                          • Conchis
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                            • Jun 2014
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                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Yes, jc, I love that one two. Joni's Michael from Mountains and both Sides Now in impeccable performances! She never really pushed her own songwriting long term but then she was such a great interpreter of others, Mitchell, Cohen, dylan and others. The third album of hers which I also love is In my Life which has Cohen's Dress Rehearsal Rag and Dylan's Just like Tom Thumb's Blues. All three of the one's we've discussed are in the 5fer, together with Judith and Fifth Album - worth a tenner of anyones money! Good Songs sung well with tasteful arrangements.
                            Judy Collins' live album 'Living' from 1971is a very downbeat affair (especially for a live album) but it contains some great songs and performances.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                              Judy Collins' live album 'Living' from 1971is a very downbeat affair (especially for a live album) but it contains some great songs and performances.
                              Interesting, Conchis - when you say downbeat, are you referring to poor sound quality or is that OK. Checking on the track listing it appears to have some tracks not available on hervstudio recordings.

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                              • Conchis
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                                • Jun 2014
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                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Interesting, Conchis - when you say downbeat, are you referring to poor sound quality or is that OK. Checking on the track listing it appears to have some tracks not available on hervstudio recordings.

                                No: the sound quality is fine but the album has a depressed and somewhat listless feel, not what you'd expect from a live album (there is minimal evidence of an audience but I'm assured the album was recorded 'live'). The fact that there are two Leonard Cohen covers may account for some of the mood. Despite what I say, I would highly recommend the album - it's very evocative of a time in American society when disillusionment was setting in (the Viet Nam ward dragging on, Nixon in the White House, etc.). It ends with a version of Dylan's ....Tom Thumb's Blues which is superior (i'd argue) to the studio version on In My Life. It's almost certainly on Spotify, so go check it out! :)

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