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In those late ones, cloughie, even when I didn't like the songs or arrangements I still really liked his voice. -
I guess there were good ones and bad ones on the outstanding to downright awful spectrum!Originally posted by johncorrigan View PostComment
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Always swore that I would never love Elvis but I caved in on the Sun recordings and bought them.
This is the theme "The Nineties That Passed Me By" which is I guess oh so slightly indie leaning. I have posted most of these before. But it's also "A Testament to You Tube and Spotify" because like many people I thought I knew it all about what mattered in popular music in that decade and was delighted later to discover that I never did. Regular readers will know about my immense - I think justifiable - hyping of the late Jackie Leven who really emerged in that decade and carried it forward having been John St Field in 1971 and the lead singer of the unfairly maligned, though incendiary, Doll By Doll either side of 1980. But also I think the Frames arguably produced the best song from Ireland in that decade; the Shack disc is the best ever song about drugs on a council estate, so evocative and plaintive, and a tribute to Liverpool; and the Rockingbirds were as they were but I find the track I am including so uplifting. OK, so the Leven track is officially November 2000 but these are in my opinion among the greatest lost songs of that decade and I adore them all - Top 100 pop of all time.
And may their force be with you:
Jackie Leven - The Sexual Loneliness of Jesus Christ
Shack - Neighbours
The Frames - Fitzcarraldo
The Rockingbirds - Gradually Learning
(Damn - they don't paginate but that's the price of prioritizing)
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OK, four geezers - 80s/90s - and again among my non charting ludicrously softy favourwites before apparently I'm orff, shiver:
Billy Mackenzie - Beyond the Sun
James Iha - Be Strong Now
Andy White - I Will Wait
Martin Stephenson - Crocodile Cryer
(If anyone has any issues about these selections, the sub-machine gun will be out - and I have "done" .22 and self-loading rifles)
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And just the one more:
The smashing Jackie.
At least when there was a musical man who wholly got men the Americans saw it and mostly accepted him.
His name was Springsteen.
Leven in Britain was cruelly overlooked - British blokes couldn't cope with him:
Brilliant......was at the same school as Gordon Brown and at the same time although living in gypsy caravan.
Latterly, one of Princess Diana's anonymous friends.
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Always great to hear, Lat, since you introduced me to it when you chose it in a Desert Island Discs playlist many a long year ago (7 actually). Looking at the list I can't see who chose all the records. I assume this might have been one of yours.Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostAnd just the one more:
The smashing Jackie.
Leven in Britain was cruelly overlooked - British blokes couldn't cope with him:
Brilliant......
This was one of mine at the time.
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Interesting, JC. Our musical tastes were as great seven years ago as they are today.Originally posted by johncorrigan View PostAlways great to hear, Lat, since you introduced me to it when you chose it in a Desert Island Discs playlist many a long year ago (7 actually). Looking at the list I can't see who chose all the records. I assume this might have been one of yours.
This was one of mine at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YIq0oNiSM
Re Jackie Leven - sort of - I had forgotten the mixed blessings of sharing a twin room. The plus is that there is conversation before lights out rather than 5 Live. The minus is that it very quickly becomes bizarre. At 12.40am it becomes clear that the topic will be gypsies. He having been in the Government's gypsy unit emphasizes opinion on their manipulative nature. I speak about the colour that used to accompany the Epsom Derby, Paco de Lucia and obviously Jackie Leven. This goes round and round for a full hour until he lets slip that his great grandmother Linda - it might not have been Linda - was a part of a gypsy family. I can tell by his colouring actually which is only slightly less dark than mine. I suggest his reasoning is full of contradictions. He's sick of the gypsy conversation now and says that it might no longer be the time for the loudness of my voice. Clearly I have won precisely at 1.40am as planned and wholly sure that no other conversation along these lines has taken place in other parts of East Anglia in parallel. The good thing is that we never fell out even after a five year gap and I do accept that is about his tolerance. It's just a shame that it runs out with what I shall call travellers (especially in one who likes pitching a tent wherever he feel like it):
Jackie Leven - King of the Barley - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPaPkiMEdlELast edited by Lat-Literal; 24-08-17, 20:06.Comment
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Beverly Copeland - Good Morning Blues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPxFdYtWkv4
"We're" hearing John Martyn here but are not too sure who did who if at all.
A slight touch of the Eartha Kitts too - after which perhaps Grace Jones etc.
I'm not saying this is my favourite track of all time or even my favourite of Martyn's.
But it is still one of the greatest statements in writing of the wall between the inner and outer experiences in anyone.
One can do maps and words and dreams and nostalgia and google....it's different beyond - both as good and as bad.
It's between the eyes and the nose essentially - we listening people blur it and he depicted it.
John Martyn/Danny Thompson - Solid Air - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg_Utj4Aljc
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Posh bird (whoops), half baked in some ways (whoops) but we had eye contact at the Town and Country Club which nearly put her off her stroke. I won't have anything said against her "wist" even if it was the 1980s and hence very dismissable. Meet it on its own level, go into it and it is an absolutely mesmeric, ethereal and importantly more than semi-literate dream:
Tanita Tikaram:
Little Sister Leaving Town - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_keShBYk1A
Valentine Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cujRhGVK8k
Cathedral Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKPsztkrIVQ
Twist In My Sobriety (2011) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjJ2Tg3Nh0
Yep....the person and the recent new-found if wobbly new age soul.....could be big again if it all comes together, as her character suggests, in her sixties.
This will only be with the right musical direction.
Which won't happen unless it is mine.
Hello : I'm Tanita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iES1TsHXNo0
(Obviously in approach the female Colin Blunstone which is a great thing)
Glass Love Train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuVYaQDOFKo
Food On My Table - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZNyd7Y7ZVs
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I think you've done your sums wrong Lat - she's 48, no age at all if she's looked after her voice. I remember her as being one of those oases of calm voice, along with Suzanne Vega at the time.Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostPosh bird (whoops), half baked in some ways (whoops) but we had eye contact at the Town and Country Club which nearly put her off her stroke. I won't have anything said against her "wist" even if it was the 1980s and hence very dismissable. Meet it on its own level, go into it and it is an absolutely mesmeric, ethereal and importantly more than semi-literate dream:
Tanita Tikaram:
Little Sister Leaving Town - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_keShBYk1A
Valentine Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cujRhGVK8k
Cathedral Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKPsztkrIVQ
Twist In My Sobriety (2011) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjJ2Tg3Nh0
Yep....the person and the recent new-found if wobbly new age soul.....could be big again if it all comes together, as her character suggests, in her sixties.
This will only be with the right musical direction.
Which won't happen unless it is mine.
Hello : I'm Tanita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iES1TsHXNo0
(Obviously in approach the female Colin Blunstone which is a great thing)
Glass Love Train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuVYaQDOFKo
Food On My Table - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZNyd7Y7ZVsComment
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I nearly bought a Tanita CD in a junk shop the other day...Lat's persuading me I made a mistake buying something else, especially since it was a v disappointing choice. Re Vega, cloughie, I agree re oasis of calm, but not this rather excellent remix...at least I think it is.Originally posted by cloughie View Post
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostThank you for these - I didn't expect to get any responses at all to this one - and yes I might have added about five years onto her. My thoughts are towards a full jazz/blues approach - I think she has the voice for it - not that she should give up on her back catalogue. If you are buying just one, definitely go for "Ancient Heart" - an 8 out of 10. The others are lower.Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
Re Vega, yes, absolutely the same era and very much for comparison - she actually did Womad one year and I was there : the live Tom's Diner pleased most or all folk in attendance!Last edited by Lat-Literal; 27-08-17, 20:33.Comment
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I suggest you fix a meeting with her, lat. Sometimes singers need a nudge in the right direction - we can see their voice potential but they go in oblivion in an unmemorable way.Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostComment
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Originally posted by cloughie View Post
My track record isn't good.
Orchid Waltz, latterly Typically Max, of Dorking could have gone far but only one was a mate and the others weren't convinced. The same was true of my second of two attempts. They must have had about six names all of which I forget. Had it gone official, I would have told them to stop changing their name. That friend is now solo at various bistros across Surrey.
Blimey, on the first, Google now informs me that one of the members who said no went on to bigger and better things even without my involvement......I didn't know this until tonight!
Lee Collinson - Driving Wheel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaMlGnDS43M
(They were sort of eighties indie meets Steely Dan with some jazz stylings at the time and had their own songs)
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I love this...quite new. Courtney Barnett & Kurt Vile - Over Everything
Great vid!Comment
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